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08-08-02, 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by morsen
ngateguy, did the end of your message get garbled? I didn't understand the last part. ["of course busses no privat autos maybe scooters"]
ngateguy, did the end of your message get garbled? I didn't understand the last part. ["of course busses no privat autos maybe scooters"]
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08-08-02, 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by morsen
Yes, I know they supply the needs of the metropolis, but they have enjoyed decades of massive subsidies. They also deserve an inordinate amount of the blame for the poor air quality of out cities, compared to modern private automobiles. They should be forced to update their vehicles.
Yes, I know they supply the needs of the metropolis, but they have enjoyed decades of massive subsidies. They also deserve an inordinate amount of the blame for the poor air quality of out cities, compared to modern private automobiles. They should be forced to update their vehicles.
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08-08-02, 08:46 PM
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Plus there is a looming water shortage ahead as more people comnsume more water.
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08-09-02, 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by Dutchy
I guess it is a matter of which one we have more of water or oil. There is no reason why sea water can't be turned into fresh water and used
I guess it is a matter of which one we have more of water or oil. There is no reason why sea water can't be turned into fresh water and used
08-09-02, 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by Dutchy
I guess it is a matter of which one we have more of water or oil. There is no reason why sea water can't be turned into fresh water and used. I would rather have a steam powered car than an oil one. The steam was minimal and it evaporates anyhow.
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I guess it is a matter of which one we have more of water or oil. There is no reason why sea water can't be turned into fresh water and used. I would rather have a steam powered car than an oil one. The steam was minimal and it evaporates anyhow.
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08-10-02, 03:34 PM
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Just got back from our Saturday ride. Just about home we three were moving about 15 mph on the flats. Just ahead was a restaurant. Two cars behind us, the last one was impatient. Warm -all windows were down. The rear car was adjacent the last in in line of our group..
They were fat slobs- redneck types.. Shouted out the window to the advance car- "screw them, they are just cyclists.. " They were raring up their engine and swerving about in their lane... The car ahead was taking his time, before he made a right turn,so not to turn into our front cyclist. It was in a school district and the speed limit was 25.
Well, the guy looked like he had not eaten in 20 minutes andstopped at the restaurant up ahead.
The point- all that impatience and just up ahead was a red light with backed up traffic- holding up the dude from entering the restaurant driveway anyway.
Rear cyclist shouted back 'screw everybody'. What is wrong with people with all that horsepower in congested traffic, anyway..
They were fat slobs- redneck types.. Shouted out the window to the advance car- "screw them, they are just cyclists.. " They were raring up their engine and swerving about in their lane... The car ahead was taking his time, before he made a right turn,so not to turn into our front cyclist. It was in a school district and the speed limit was 25.
Well, the guy looked like he had not eaten in 20 minutes andstopped at the restaurant up ahead.
The point- all that impatience and just up ahead was a red light with backed up traffic- holding up the dude from entering the restaurant driveway anyway.
Rear cyclist shouted back 'screw everybody'. What is wrong with people with all that horsepower in congested traffic, anyway..
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08-10-02, 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by Dutchy
There is no reason why sea water can't be turned into fresh water and used.
There is no reason why sea water can't be turned into fresh water and used.
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08-12-02, 03:05 PM
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I have been thinking about different energy sources and have come to the conclusion that most of our man made attepts make use of energy that nature has stored.
Then I took an inventory of options that people have learned to use to create energy. Some follow:
Coal/Gas/Oil- Nature has stored gravitational energy (pressure to form the substance) in a chemical form. We have added further chemical energy in the form of processing.
Hydroelectric- Combination of our energy in building the dam and natural gravitational energy.
Nuclear- Stored energy in the form of large, unstable atoms. Would seem to be the panacea if fission could be made to produce non-radioactive components, but where does uranium come from?
Wind/Solar- Both together because both energy sources are ultimately from the sun.
Biological- Simply the conversion of chemical energy in food to other forms. Very efficient though.
The purpose of this exercise is to note that all energy must come from somewhere. It is a fact all too often forgotten in the argument. The best we can do is convert energy from one form to another in the most efficient way possible.
Sorry for rambling on too much. This is a more philosophical post, but something to think about.
Then I took an inventory of options that people have learned to use to create energy. Some follow:
Coal/Gas/Oil- Nature has stored gravitational energy (pressure to form the substance) in a chemical form. We have added further chemical energy in the form of processing.
Hydroelectric- Combination of our energy in building the dam and natural gravitational energy.
Nuclear- Stored energy in the form of large, unstable atoms. Would seem to be the panacea if fission could be made to produce non-radioactive components, but where does uranium come from?
Wind/Solar- Both together because both energy sources are ultimately from the sun.
Biological- Simply the conversion of chemical energy in food to other forms. Very efficient though.
The purpose of this exercise is to note that all energy must come from somewhere. It is a fact all too often forgotten in the argument. The best we can do is convert energy from one form to another in the most efficient way possible.
Sorry for rambling on too much. This is a more philosophical post, but something to think about.
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08-12-02, 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Brian Ratliff
I have been thinking about different energy sources and have come to the conclusion that most of our man made attepts make use of energy that nature has stored...
Nuclear- Stored energy in the form of large, unstable atoms. Would seem to be the panacea if fission could be made to produce non-radioactive components, but where does uranium come from?
I have been thinking about different energy sources and have come to the conclusion that most of our man made attepts make use of energy that nature has stored...
Nuclear- Stored energy in the form of large, unstable atoms. Would seem to be the panacea if fission could be made to produce non-radioactive components, but where does uranium come from?
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08-12-02, 10:20 PM
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the attitude amongst us humans is use use use not conserve conserve, if we start turning sea water int fresh water what impact is that going to have on the base of our food chain? and what do we do when we start running low on sea water
I was just making a point that cars could run on clean burning fuel if the parties interested were willing to invest money into the process.
If not water, they will use electricity, I know which I would prefer. Besides when oil is removed from the ground don't they backfill it with water anyway?
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