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Old 07-26-25 | 12:45 PM
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‘Drivers vs. Cyclists: A Battle For the Streets in Canada's Largest City’

The Ontario premier wants to rip out 14 miles of bike lanes; the mayor of Toronto wants to keep them. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/w...s-toronto.html I accessed without a subscription. Here's an alternative:https://dnyuz.com/2025/07/26/drivers...-largest-city/
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This is a little bit more than 10% of the bike lanes in Toronto (205.4 kms), so it's not a case of they're removing ALL the bike lanes. I suspect they have done additional analysis of the traffic situation since the lanes were installed and came to the conclusion that these lanes, in these locations, made traffic worse. In my opinion, they are likely doing the correct thing removing them. And it's not like you can't still ride on the road.
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Old 07-26-25 | 02:58 PM
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I suspect they have done additional analysis of the traffic situation since the lanes were installed and came to the conclusion that these lanes, in these locations, made traffic worse.
I hope so. I came out against the addition of new bike lanes in Albuquerque, even got published in the paper, because I think it will make traffic worse at little, if any, benefit to bicyclists. I didn't post the article because I agreed with either side, but because it's news, and bicycling so rarely makes the news.
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I've looked at the area on the map and I wouldn't have any problem riding those roads without bike lanes. City riding is kind of fun, especially when the traffic is backed up






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This just in:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ling-1.7597460
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Old 07-30-25 | 02:23 PM
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Well, I guess this is another Dead Thread


I'm sure no one else has anything to say on this topic
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[5] The Respondent submits that the position of the Applicants, if accepted, would create a constitutional right to bicycle lanes and raises the spectre that all highway traffic decisions would be subject to Charter scrutiny. The government argues that it is entitled to make decisions regarding the provision and maintenance of transportation infrastructure without interference by the courts. It submits that removing the target bike lanes and restoring a lane for cars will address the serious problem of traffic congestion in Toronto.
Behold the glory of British government. If Shellnut wins this case and we get charter protection for cyclists Quebec will separate for sure.
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If Shellnut wins this case and we get charter protection for cyclists Quebec will separate for sure.
Anne Hidalgo is making Paris bicycle-friendlier - do French-Canadians have different opinions?
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Old 08-03-25 | 03:38 PM
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Anne Hidalgo is making Paris bicycle-friendlier - do French-Canadians have different opinions?
Kebs are the white trash version of French people.
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Originally Posted by Arthur Peabody
Anne Hidalgo is making Paris bicycle-friendlier - do French-Canadians have different opinions?
Quebec has far stronger cycling culture than the rest of Canada. Similar to Europe. Bike lanes everywhere. I have no idea what the other guy is talking about.
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I cleaned up the thread by removing some posts. Let’s not make this political please
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Quebec has far stronger cycling culture than the rest of Canada. Similar to Europe. Bike lanes everywhere. I have no idea what the other guy is talking about.
I'm Dutch and have lived in Quebec and ROC (rest of Canada). Quebec is nothing like Europe. Montreal may be marginally better than some other Canadian cities but that is more due to geographic circumstances. Montreal is an island. The city put in a few bike lanes because they had no other choice. There's no room to expand and the city is too broke to add more subway lines. Adding a coat of paint and calling it a bike lane was the only available option. But it's nothing like Europe.
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Montreal is an island.
Manhattan is an island too. That hasn't stopped then from land-filling in roughly 3000 acres (29%) after the Dutch bought it.

Anyway, I agree that cyclists should keep an open mind to the benefits of occasionally removing bike infrastructure.
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Originally Posted by homeless in ca.
I'm Dutch and have lived in Quebec and ROC (rest of Canada). Quebec is nothing like Europe. Montreal may be marginally better than some other Canadian cities but that is more due to geographic circumstances. Montreal is an island. The city put in a few bike lanes because they had no other choice. There's no room to expand and the city is too broke to add more subway lines. Adding a coat of paint and calling it a bike lane was the only available option. But it's nothing like Europe.
Have you lived in Toronto? It's 10 times worse than Montreal. It's all relative.

The Netherlands in not Europe. The average of Europe is far better than the average of North America, but Europe is not all the same. You must not have visited many countries in Europe, because Montreal's cycling network is comparable or better than many parts of Europe.

If your standard is the Netherlands, then yes, Montreal has a very bad network. By that logic anyone less intelligent than Einstein is automatically considered mentally ********.
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Well, I guess this is another Dead Thread (not really)


I'm sure no one else has anything to say on this topic
Toronto is a rockN town and bikes were and still are part of scene..............they been making indy movies there for 20+ years cause the city is cheap and can be made to look ameican annnnnnnnnnd i even know/knew some of these safety oriented bike guys >>>>>>>>>>>
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And it gets worse for venerable road users - in November 2025, the Ontario government passed Bill 60 which bans the conversion of motor vehicle lanes for bike lanes or “any other prescribed purpose” - province wide.

The actions of the government are entirely ideologically driven - even contrary to their own internal findings.
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Old 01-16-26 | 03:48 PM
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bicyclers are never high on the list of any government's priorities and that's why bicyclers have be high on their own
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