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Old 09-02-06, 12:53 PM
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So much for the Aloha spirit...

Posted on: Saturday, September 2, 2006

Bicyclist fatally beaten in suspected road rage

By Curtis Lum
Advertiser Staff Writer


WAI'ANAE — An apparent road rage incident turned deadly last night when a bicyclist was savagely beaten to death by three men in front of a convenience store, police said.

The victim was a 47-year-old Wai'anae man who was attacked in the parking lot of the Wai'anae Market on Farrington Highway shortly before 6:30 p.m., police said.

The man was taken to the Wai'anae Coast Comprehensive Health Center, where he was pronounced dead. His name was not released.

Police were searching for three suspects last night. Police said they believe they know the identity of one suspect, a man in his 20s.

The bicyclist got into a traffic altercation with some men in a car at the Wai'anae McDonald's, police said. After the argument, the bicyclist went to the Wai-'anae Market, about 100 yards away, said Lt. Dagan Tsuchida.

A witness, who would not give her name because she was fearful, said she saw the victim with his girlfriend outside the market. A white Ford sedan pulled into the lot and three men jumped out, she said. They swore at victim's girlfriend, threw her to the ground and attacked the man, the witness said.

She said another man stayed in the car during the attack, which lasted about five minutes.

"They kept stomping him on the head and kicking him," she said. "He was unconscious for most of it. That's what didn't make sense."

The sound of the man's head hitting the pavement "is something that I'll never forget," she said. "I've never seen damage to a human body like that."

The men then sped away in the car, she said.

The witness said the man was alive after the attack but had stopped breathing by the time the ambulance arrived.
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This does not impugn the Aloha spirit. This happens all over the world. It does not make sense to start an arguement with a car or its contents. In other places you would just get shot. Are the witnesses so sure it was a traffic altercation? There is enough gang/drug violence in California that three motorists killing a cyclist would get lost in the back pages except for cycling forums.
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This sort of thing is on the rise. Not to long ago in Des Moines a motorist passed a couple of cyclists too close. The cyclists said something, the driver stopped, got out, walked up to the cyclists & hit one in the face more then a few times, walked back to his vehicle, got in left.

Maybe we should stop saying things to motorists who pass too close, cut us off, etc regardless of how polite we are. It seems no matter how you say it when a motorists puts you in danger due their stupid acts what you say will get you hurt. So should we just shut our mouths & take it & make no kind of response to stupid things a motorist does no matter what?
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If I lived in a place like that, I'd carry a weapon. And be very ready to use it. Or move.

I don't think this means we should all shut up and say nothing. It is still a rare thing; much less likely than a serious traffic accident - but the chance of an accident doesn't preclude you from riding, does it?
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Originally Posted by ken cummings
This does not impugn the Aloha spirit.
I was being somewhat facetious. As a resident of Hawaii, I can tell you the Aloha spirit is alive and well The local news has been vague on this case. It's not clear what caused the incident. I'll provide details, if they come to my attention.
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The only way we'll be able to experience no more of this road rage is if a few oil tankers sink to the bottom, or some pipelines are permanently shut down. Non-malicious causes hopefully.
Sure food and whatnot will go up, but it shouldn't get insanely high-priced to where only the
super-wealthy will be able to afford it.
All those troublemakers that can't get by without motorized vehicles or the like will succumb to natural selection.
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Originally Posted by bentstrider
The only way we'll be able to experience no more of this road rage is if a few oil tankers sink to the bottom, or some pipelines are permanently shut down. Non-malicious causes hopefully.
Sure food and whatnot will go up, but it shouldn't get insanely high-priced to where only the
super-wealthy will be able to afford it.
All those troublemakers that can't get by without motorized vehicles or the like will succumb to natural selection.
You're kidding right? Higher gas prices will cause more people to resent us, not less.
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Originally Posted by N_C
This sort of thing is on the rise. Not to long ago in Des Moines a motorist passed a couple of cyclists too close. The cyclists said something, the driver stopped, got out, walked up to the cyclists & hit one in the face more then a few times, walked back to his vehicle, got in left.

Maybe we should stop saying things to motorists who pass too close, cut us off, etc regardless of how polite we are. It seems no matter how you say it when a motorists puts you in danger due their stupid acts what you say will get you hurt. So should we just shut our mouths & take it & make no kind of response to stupid things a motorist does no matter what?
I don't know about anyone else, but if I yelled something at a car driver, and the guy stopped and got out of his car, I wouldn't be hanging around long enough to get punched in the face once, let alone several times. If the person getting punched was someone I was with, I would certainly memorize the tag number of the vehicle, it's called assault, even if the local police are not pro-cyclist, they would follow up on the complaint of someone assaulting someone else in public.
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Originally Posted by nm+
You're kidding right? Higher gas prices will cause more people to resent us, not less.
Well, I guess dart guns filled with Prozac and/or Valium will have to do.
This world is becoming a mixture of "Maximum Overdrive" and "28 Days Later", powerful vehicles and insane/unbalanced drivers.
Vast amounts of untapped rage are beginning to spew all around.
And if people are too chicken$h!t to use a gun or their fists, then they'll use their steering wheel and accelerator pedal.
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Originally Posted by bentstrider
Well, I guess dart guns filled with Prozac and/or Valium will have to do.
This world is becoming a mixture of "Maximum Overdrive" and "28 Days Later", powerful vehicles and insane/unbalanced drivers.
Vast amounts of untapped rage are beginning to spew all around.
And if people are too chicken$h!t to use a gun or their fists, then they'll use their steering wheel and accelerator pedal.
I think its cause people are no longer allowed to beat thier children
Seriously though, road rage scares the shiat out of me. One it gets beyond yelling in your car on on your bike (which no one realy can hear anyway), it just get stupid. Flighting with 2000+lb machines is just about as dumb as you can get.
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Originally Posted by nm+
I think its cause people are no longer allowed to beat thier children
Seriously though, road rage scares the shiat out of me. One it gets beyond yelling in your car on on your bike (which no one realy can hear anyway), it just get stupid. Flighting with 2000+lb machines is just about as dumb as you can get.
The lawmaker that made it a crime to physically discipline out-of-control children should be a victim of one of these rage attacks.
Then to add insult to injury, someone should replace the Ford Econo-crap Ambulance with a gutless Aerostar fleet.
That ought to get the gears spinning again.
It should've been realized time and time again that the governmentcan't hold everyones hand while crossing the street.
Some will just have to learn to watch for traffic, others will have to become the roadkill.
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Gee I can't help but wonder if any of those witnesses thought to take down a license plate number...
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Here's a follow-up article in the Honolulu Advertiser

Posted on: Sunday, September 3, 2006

'Nobody helped' in fatal beating

By Will Hoover
Advertiser Leeward O'ahu Writer


Roger Haudenshild, with girlfriend, Theresa "Terri" Tucay, was a famil-iar face in Wai'anae. He was beaten to death Friday in a parking lot.

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WAI'ANAE — Theresa Kapaona said she sensed that something was terribly wrong as she passed the Wai'anae Market on Friday evening on her way home from work.

"But, I couldn't place it," said Kapaona. "So I went home and got comfortable — and then the phone rang. It was my son's girlfriend, Terri, who told me, 'Come to the hospital.' "

She rushed to the Wai'anae Coast Comprehensive Health Center only to learn that her son, Roger Haudenshild, 46, had been beaten to death just before 6:30 p.m. in the store's parking lot.

"They were trying to get his heart to beat," Kapaona said yesterday. "But, they couldn't get anything. His face was all bruised and punched in. Oh, it was awful. He was unrecognizable."

Police were still searching yesterday for three men suspected in the beating. They said it may have been triggered by a traffic altercation that turned to ugly rage.

The altercation apparently began at the Wai'anae McDonald's sometime after 6 p.m. when Haudenshild, who was riding a white mountain bike, became involved in a traffic dispute, police said.

Theresa "Terri" Tucay, Haudenshild's girlfriend, said the two of them were by McDonald's that night and Haudenshild was on a bicycle. A man in a sports car cut him off and words were exchanged, she said.

Tucay said the next thing she knew, Haudenshild and the driver were throwing punches.

After the fistfight, the man said he was going to get his friends.

Tucay said she got Haudenshild to leave with her, telling him that it wasn't worth fighting over, and they went to the market. She said they did not take the man's threat to return seriously.

But while they were in the parking lot of the Wai'anae Market, a Ford sedan pulled up and three men leaped out. They knocked her down and started beating Haudenshild, Tucay said.

"I just ran into the store, asked someone to call for help, call the authorities that my boyfriend was getting mobbed outside.

"By the time I came out they were just kicking, stomping and punching him. Then they stopped and they all got in the car. One guy stood there and said, 'If anybody says anything they're gonna get it.'"

Then they sped away, she said.

Tucay, who said that she was not badly injured, described the man who was in the sports car as 5 feet 6 or 5 feet 7, 250 pounds, short hair, in his late 20s or early 30s. She said she had never seen him or the other men before.

A witness, who asked that her name not be used because she was fearful, said the three men swore at Tucay after jumping from their car, threw her to the ground, and then began savagely beating Haudenshild.

The witness said the men kicked and stomped on Haudenshild, who was unconscious, for five minutes while a fourth man watched from the car.

Police said Friday they had a description of the car and that they thought they might know the identity of one of the suspects, a man in his 20s.

Albert Kia'aina, 43, who rode his mountain bike into the Wai'anae Market parking lot in the morning, said he knew Haudenshild well. He described him as easygoing and friendly.

"I've known Roger four or five years," he said. "He was a mellow kind of guy. A quiet person. He always got along with everyone. He was never in your face. He was the kind of guy who just minded his own business."

Others expressed outrage.

"This is shocking to the people of Wai'anae," said a Makaha resident who didn't give his name because of the violent nature of the crime.

"This is just murder, cold-blooded. Three guys doing that to someone — that's messed up."

At the 7-Eleven store at the corner of Farrington Highway and Lualualei Homestead Road, where Tucay used to work, clerk Colleen Seqin said the killing was on her customers' minds.

"People are talking about it," she said. "Mainly, they're talking about how senseless it was."

According to Haudenshild's mother, her son had been living with her on Ala Hema Street. Haudenshild, who was the child of Kapaona and her first husband, the late James Haudenshild Sr., was on welfare and getting food stamps, she said.

Haudenshild was a familiar face at Poka'i Bay. Gary Mara, who lives across the road from the bay, said he was stunned when he heard the name of the victim.

"Roger Haudenshild? He was the one? We were classmates in school at Wai'anae High. I was just talking to him. He and his girlfriend passed by here every day. Roger was a good guy. Ex-football player, baseball player, basketball, track — all kinds of sports.

"Why would someone do that to him? He never bothered anyone."

That was the question on many minds, especially Haudenshild's mother's.

"It is sad," said the 68-year-old woman. "Sad because when I passed by the market there was a lot of cars. There was so many people coming in and out of the store. But nobody was there to help him because they were afraid. Terri told me, 'Nobody helped.'

"And they just kept stomping on his face."
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Well, I guess dart guns filled with Prozac and/or Valium will have to do.
This world is becoming a mixture of "Maximum Overdrive" and "28 Days Later", powerful vehicles and insane/unbalanced drivers.
Vast amounts of untapped rage are beginning to spew all around.
And if people are too chicken$h!t to use a gun or their fists, then they'll use their steering wheel and accelerator pedal
The only way we'll be able to experience no more of this road rage is if a few oil tankers sink to the bottom, or some pipelines are permanently shut down. Non-malicious causes hopefully.
Sure food and whatnot will go up, but it shouldn't get insanely high-priced to where only the
super-wealthy will be able to afford it.
All those troublemakers that can't get by without motorized vehicles or the like will succumb to natural selection




bentstrider, do actually beleive what you wrote? I think you may be off of your medicine. Check your bottles......please.
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Originally Posted by tomcryar
bentstrider, do actually beleive what you wrote? I think you may be off of your medicine. Check your bottles......please.
I ain't got no insurance, so no medicine for me.
And yes, I do believe everything I just typed.
Am I afraid I'm going to die? No.
Why sweat a problem like this when you can't do anything about it legally?
I'm just saying it like how I feel it is and taking everyday with a grain of salt.
If you feel things are getting better, then thank you so much for thinking positive.
Without persons like you, it wouldn't be so fun being negative anymore.
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