Why do BL's have solid lines?
12-30-06, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MarkS
If they were serious about BL's, they'd be lined with bots dots. These would have almost the full effect of an actual barrier. But its a tool to get cyclists out of way -- not to protect cyclists. And painting white lines is fast, easy, and apparently makes politicians feel good.
The white line is always used to denote a special use lane. It is just a convention; there are probably better conventions which can be used. In many places in Europe, the bike lane is denoted by a "dotted" line, at least in the rural areas. You can see this in Tour de France footage.
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12-30-06, 07:18 PM
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, or if such a setup would be legal, but would there be any pitfalls to a solid outside line with a dashed line immidiately to the right of it, impling that cyclists may exit the bike lane, but that cars may not enter it? Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by Brian Ratliff
No, actually you have this precisely bass ackwards. IF the road designers were serious about keeping cyclists out of the full sized traffic lanes, then they would put up a barrier such as Bott Dots, which impedes a cyclist's ability to cross the line much more than it does a car (ever hit one of these when you weren't expecting it on a road bike? The bike jumps up and out of control and can be a serous fall hazard.). Since what you are suggesting is merely a conspiracy theory and cyclists are in fact able to merge freely in and out of bike lanes (at least in most areas where I'm from), this is why there are no Botts Dots separating cyclists from cars.
I don't know about conspiracy theories. I'm just saying that the current white lines don't do anything for a cyclist that a wide lane couldn't do. The people that paint these lines are pretty careless, and its virtually impossible to tell a parking lane from bike lane strip in many places where I ride. In an age when more people are driving under the influence of electronic play toys the Botts might cut through the static.
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12-30-06, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cudak888
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, or if such a setup would be legal, but would there be any pitfalls to a solid outside line with a dashed line immidiately to the right of it, impling that cyclists may exit the bike lane, but that cars may not enter it? Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by cudak888
... would there be any pitfalls to a solid outside line with a dashed line immidiately to the right of it, impling that cyclists may exit the bike lane, but that cars may not enter it?
Where crossing the lane line markings is discouraged, the lane line markings shall consist of a normal solid white line.
Where crossing the lane line markings with care is permitted, the lane line markings shall consist of a normal broken white line.
Where crossing the lane line markings with care is permitted, the lane line markings shall consist of a normal broken white line.
Speaking of marked lanes, here are some traffic engineering terms and the beginning of their definition:
- Traveled Way—the portion of the [tt]roadway[/tt] ...
- Traffic Lane—that portion of a [tt]traveled way[/tt] ...
- Designated Bicycle Lane—a portion of a [tt]roadway or shoulder[/tt] ...
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