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Well, I put in a reply.
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Wow. Just.....wow. I can't believe someone like this wields the power of the pen for the Chicago Tribune.
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What because he expects riders to stop at signs and lights? And because he says mixing bikes and walkers on sidewalks is dangerous? He is right, bikes should stop at lights and signs. And bikes should not ride on paths with pedestrians. Bikes should ride on the road.
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Not to comfortable with the way he tries to paint us as elitists. How many of you own a titanium bike? :)
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Originally Posted by maddyfish
(Post 7150285)
What because he expects riders to stop at signs and lights?
defending the ozone layer by cycling? what the hell does the internal combustion engine have to do with the ozone layer? "space age metal curtain"? what "space age metal" are bikes in chicago made from? aluminum? maybe "beer can metal curtain" would be a better phrase. and besides, the space age started in 1957. not very futuristic. bike cops wearing "cutoffs"? i'll admit i don't live in chicago, but i strongly suspect this isn't accurate. but, most egregious is his bizarre notion that lyrac-clad roadies give a rat's ass about the environment or oil shortages or anything like that. if nothing else indicates that this desk jocky did absolutely zero research into his piece, it's this. this grossman guy has to have the cushiest job in the city: write 300 words on a topic he knows nothing about doing zero research and ship it off to the printers without having to go through the painful fact-checking process. |
Originally Posted by frymaster
but, most egregious is his bizarre notion that lyrac-clad roadies give a rat's ass about the environment or oil shortages or anything like that. if nothing else indicates that this desk jocky did absolutely zero research into his piece, it's this.
-D |
Originally Posted by derath
(Post 7150601)
Talk about painting with a broad brush. I happen to be a lycra-clad roadie and I care about the environment and oil shortages.
let me rephrase it this way: the break down of roadies who would say they "give a rat's ass" (or suitable, non-biased statement of equivalence) about the environment is probably the same or worse than that for drivers. |
My favorite part of the piece was where he mentioned his kids not understanding how to up/downshift, and then derides cyclists as not being able to understand multiple gears, ostensibly because they cannot comprehend the technology they are utilizing.
Maybe your kids should have had a better teacher, eh Ron? |
Yes, this needs an answer.
Mine includes showing respect for walkers in MUPs and slowing down in congested areas. |
Well the only real answer is to move all those cyclists out to the street... and remove the cars.
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what you guys dont understand is those ****ers are very real like all the duches of the world traded their camaros and firebirds for roadbikes and fixies
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Originally Posted by genec
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Well the only real answer is to move all those cyclists out to the street... and remove the cars.
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I think it's supposed to be funny, or at least tongue in cheek.
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Originally Posted by rando
(Post 7151113)
I think it's supposed to be funny, or at least tongue in cheek.
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Originally Posted by surveyor
(Post 7150691)
My favorite part of the piece was where he mentioned his kids not understanding how to up/downshift, and then derides cyclists as not being able to understand multiple gears, ostensibly because they cannot comprehend the technology they are utilizing.
Maybe your kids should have had a better teacher, eh Ron? |
Originally Posted by frymaster
(Post 7150663)
that's actually very heartening to hear.
let me rephrase it this way: the break down of roadies who would say they "give a rat's ass" (or suitable, non-biased statement of equivalence) about the environment is probably the same or worse than that for drivers. I also stop at stop signs, and lights. And I don't think that bikes don't stop at lights and signs because they don't know how to shift. I think bikes don't stop at lights and signs becasue their riders are weak sprinters. |
Originally Posted by Dude Abides
(Post 7150336)
Not to comfortable with the way he tries to paint us as elitists. How many of you own a titanium bike? :)
gw |
Another poorly written newspaper column, from a bike-hating columnist. There seems to be a lot of them. Too bad there's no smiley for yawning.
Of course, Mr. Grossman is free to state what's on his mind. In kind, we are free to disagree with it, or ignore it. Bicycles used to have a bit of substance. They had big, fat tires and a simple mechanism: Pedal clockwise and the bike went forward, push backward and it stopped. |
Originally Posted by trackhub
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Another poorly written newspaper column, from a bike-hating columnist. There seems to be a lot of them. Too bad there's no smiley for yawning.
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Originally Posted by surveyor
(Post 7150691)
My favorite part of the piece was where he mentioned his kids not understanding how to up/downshift, and then derides cyclists as not being able to understand multiple gears, ostensibly because they cannot comprehend the technology they are utilizing.
Maybe your kids should have had a better teacher, eh Ron? |
Originally Posted by apricissimus
(Post 7155398)
I rode my bike over to my parents' house yesterday, and they actually asked me if I shifted into different gears when I ride. I was taken aback. Like, why wouldn't I? It's really not hard, but I guess it is intimidating to some people.
My favorite reply is the one by Dan Korn. |
Originally Posted by frymaster
(Post 7150663)
that's actually very heartening to hear.
let me rephrase it this way: the break down of roadies who would say they "give a rat's ass" (or suitable, non-biased statement of equivalence) about the environment is probably the same or worse than that for drivers. -D |
Originally Posted by maddyfish
(Post 7150285)
What because he expects riders to stop at signs and lights? And because he says mixing bikes and walkers on sidewalks is dangerous? He is right, bikes should stop at lights and signs. And bikes should not ride on paths with pedestrians. Bikes should ride on the road.
I disagree with your contention that bikes should not ride on paths with pedestrians if the path is and always has been designated for bicycle use as this one is. You could just as easily say pedestrians should walk only on sidewalks. However, I do agree with your 'Democrat voting for McCain' tag line. :thumb: |
Originally Posted by Dchiefransom
(Post 7155533)
My favorite reply is the one by Dan Korn.
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I'm not sure ignorance like that even deserves a reply. If he was halfway serious about that article, a few words from cyclist certainly aren't going to change his mind.
Someone just needs to buy that guy a decent bike and take away his vehicle. Let him live in our world for a bit so maybe, just maybe he'll realize on his own that not every cyclist is a law-breaking sociopath with nothing better to do than to run down pedestrians. |
Originally Posted by derath
(Post 7156248)
I would still love to understand where you get this, other than pulling it from your backside.
i seriously and sincerely hope your experience with roadies is better. |
Originally Posted by Hobartlemagne
(Post 7150070)
Well, I put in a reply.
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This is some poor writing. This makes me embarrassed to live in Chicago. I have ridden my bike and walked on the trail he is referring to. Occasionally there are lycra clad roadies going 20+ mph down the trail on their high end Treks. These guys are ****** bags. Not only is this impolite, but dangerous considering skateboarders, pedestrians, rollerbladers, dogs and strollers all share the same space. However, 99% of the people who bike on the trail do so at reasonable speeds, slow for congested areas and are polite to the other users. To make the generalization that bicyclists are ruining the trail for everyone is ignorant and insulting.
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