ghettocruiser

This is what, the fifth thread on this topic?

ItsJustMe

Way more than that, if you go to other forums like Commuting and others. This is probably the 5th just in A&S.

GreenGrasshoppr

I'm not convinced a helmet would've saved him from multiple roadside tree and mailbox impacts



Even IF Sheppard was in the process of assaulting Bryant, once he put the foot on the gas, the assault would have stopped because now Sheppard's main concern was being dragged at high speed.

How does Bryant then justify swerving in the opposite lane to brush off Sheppard against roadside trees and whatnot?

If Bryant had driven in a straight line, maybe he could argue self defence, but once he started brushing off Sheppard, Bryant clearly stepped into assault territory.

johnny99

Where did the bicycle end up? Is it possible that the cyclist just fell on to the car after being knocked off his bike? Then he didn't want to let go because the car was speeding away? The car was a convertible with the top down.

The cyclist was reportedly run over by the car after he crashed in to the mail box.

Clarks

Yeah, it's possible. Anyway, I didn't realize he spent the night in jail. Sounds like the he got run over at Bay and Bloor. What a shame

https://watch.ctv.ca/news/latest/brya...ed/#clip209103

If one of you could post the courier protest that'd be good

IronMac

Latest reports indicate that the bicyclist may have been drunk and was in a combative mood after his ex-gf called the cops on him earlier. Sheppard walked over to Bryant's car after being hit by the car.

Digital_Cowboy

With the cyclist dead, all we can do is speculate as why he did what he did.

Your question in regards to the question about Bryant's sexuality is a good one.

I've gotta agree with you on this being one of the nuttiest incidents between car/driver & a cyclist.

Digital_Cowboy

Not that the man's sexuality has any bearing on the case at hand, but there have been and are plenty of gay men and women married to members of the opposite sex. So his martial status has no bearing on his sexuality.

The only thing that is relevant is as was pointed out that hopefully the LEO's separated them before questioning.

filtersweep

Looks like the cyclist was a bit worked up and intoxicated--- not a good combination.

OLDYELLR

And you don't think Bryant didn't have a glass or two of wine during the anniversary dinner with his Mrs.? I bet the cops overlooked any hint of alcohol on his breath when they saw who they were dealing with.

Yes, Sheppard may have been a bit drunk and a bit aggressive, but he didn't deserve the death penalty.

If something like this had happened in the U.S., the driver might have pulled a gun and blown away the cyclist who apparently threatened him and maybe, with a clever lawyer, get away with it. However, crossing the street and bludgeoning the guy clinging to his car against trees, posts a mailbox and a hydrant until he let go and fell under the wheels seems pretty premeditated to me.

Walter

I merged 3 duplicate threads into this one.

Dchiefransom

Not to me. Cyclist was supposedly drunk, and had been involved in a domestic dispute that the cops were called to earlier. Even the police don't like dealing with those, and I've seen it take more than a couple of officers to take a guy down that's pissed on COPS. I might have tried to knock him off, also. I'll wait and see more details on why the driver tried to shake the guy off the car before I think about judging him.

OLDYELLR

I agree on waiting for more details, but you probably won't get them from the police or the defence until the trial (if there even is one; Bryant had enough pull to not even have to stick around for a bail hearing). But no doubt we'll be seeing a lot more eye witness reports over the next few days.

As for Sheppard being "drunk", we'll have to see if or when the toxicology report is released. I read some stories where he was labeled as an alcoholic, in which case he could have had a skinfull and still appear to function normally. Obviously, he was able to ride his bike, which most people can't when they're drunk.

The "domestic dispute" was apparently when he wanted to see his ex-girlfriend at her apartment and she didn't want to see him and called the cops. They had a chat with him in the cruiser and sent him on his way, so he couldn't have been that drunk.

Bottom line: he didn't deserve to die.

NoReg

"If Bryant had driven in a straight line, maybe he could argue self defence, but once he started brushing off Sheppard, Bryant clearly stepped into assault territory"

That's like saying you can throw a punch in self-defence, but if you land one, whoa! Which actually is pretty much how the LEOs may treat you, but at the end of the day reason will prevail. This is a spectacular case because it has a famous person in it, and the behaviour was extreme, the results were tragic, and the defence will be thorough, and hard to rebut. It will come down to fairly simple issues once all the sensation is peeled away.

OLDYELLR

You bet! If the driver had been some immigrant cab driver, he'd still be rotting in jail with no bail and end up with 15 years in the pen. But you can bet Bryant will never have a chance at being Prime Minister, just like Teddy Kennedy couldn't be President.

Alox

I find it a bit odious that Bryant's first call was to a lawyer, his second to a PR firm.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1272874/

might have been the first time in his life that Michael Bryant met a camera he didn't like. But even then, on what was surely one of the worst days of his life, he was thinking about how he would come across.

Like most people charged with serious crimes, the former provincial attorney-general promptly got in touch with a lawyer. At some point shortly thereafter, he also got in touch with a public relations company. By yesterday afternoon, mere hours after a man had been killed by his car, Navigator Ltd. - was helping him to express his condolences...