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Old 04-16-10, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by jediphobic
IMHO, drivers of all ages should lose their license after the first collision in which they are determined to be at fault. They'd be issued a month long temporary permit to allow them to continue working. However, they wouldn't be able to receive their full license again until they completed a drivers ed course. Subsequent incidents could have other punishments as needed. I know it would create a huge bureaucracy, but it might help safety if people understood that driving was a privilege, not a right. It would also give us a chance to tighten up our loose education standards.
Not a bad idea... with much worse restrictions if lose of life is involved. And why worry about who is at fault. Subject all parties involved to such retraining. That eliminates the issues of finding fault, and makes everyone work harder to avoid a collision
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Originally Posted by thompsonpost
You've been to Chattanooga, TN??
On the Chattanooga chew-chew!

I have bicycled thru alot of Tennessee..I loved it. I never bought a single cup of coffee in the state...when I slipped into a diner for breakfast, as soon as folks saw I was cycling they gave me the coffee for free. It was funny to come to a rural intersection where roads 1525, 1746, 1358, 7691, and 9709 all met.

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Old 04-16-10, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Roughstuff
On the Chattanooga chew-chew!

I have bicycled thru alot of Tennessee..I loved it. I never bought a single cup of coffee in the state...when I slipped into a diner for breakfast, as soon as folks saw I was cycling they gave me the coffee for free. It was funny to come to a rural intersection where roads 1525, 1746, 1358, 7691, and 9709 all met.

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Originally Posted by thompsonpost
I would be one of those people, church or not.

DON'T DRINK AND/THEN DRIVE!!!

First offense, years, second, learn to live in prison, 3rd offense, learn to live in prison. When you lose someone to a drunk driver, your sensibilities change drastically. Wanna ask me?

I don't think drunk driving should be treated any differently as a reckless driver on the cellphone or a woman putting on makeup or just bad driving all together. In my past, I've ridden with drunk drivers who drive much more safer than a sober one injecting cd's into the radio.

Bad driving should be penalized, then there should be something like a 'hate crime' clause that worsens the penalties if you're say drunk, on the cell phone, half asleep.



I just cannot understand why alcohol is the scapegoat for all bad driving. If you kill someone while behind the wheel it is but an accident no matter what you've done. But if you've had a few beers it becomes murder. I'm not saying driving drunk is innocent, but cmon now, impaired is impaired. I bet if one had been taking their prescribed morphine cough suppressant then drove you'd be less likely to hate on them then you would a drunk.

Im just saying an eye for an eye. Lets say a just downright BAD driver kills blatlantly mows someone down, then a good drunk does the same deed. Should the BAD driver get away with them calling it an accident while the drunk goes downtown for MURDER one. They committed the same act and should recieve the same penalty IMHO.
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Originally Posted by Roughstuff
Until a drunk driver plows into a high school graduation ceremony, killing dozens of sons and daughters of local lawyers, judges, politicians, policemen, and local hacks of all stripes, there will be NO REFORM in this area.

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Old 04-17-10, 09:31 PM
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Out here in OR we generally don't do any traffic enforcement, therefore it is very difficult to get a citation for drunk driving unless you incapacitate your car in the wreck. When someone picks up a few of these, they sometimes get their license "suspended", which means they can only drive to and from work and shopping. Surprisingly, these folks seem to work and shop an awful lot. On about the fifth or sixth drunk driving conviction, they get a license suspension. Typically, they then go on to at least one more wreck while driving without a license. It is a near universal belief that no one can live without driving.

I think an effective step would be to have 24/7 traffic courts and make forfeiture of the car a part of the fine for all moving violations. Be careful who you loan that car to! When you get pulled over (or out of the wreckage), you are immediately taken to traffic court. If convicted, have a nice walk home.
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Lesson watch out for teen drivers!
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