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Seems a perfectly reasonable accommodation for people who have difficulty climbing stairs but still want, and probably need, to work out. That others may take advantage of this excellent accommodation is more an indicator of their mental fitness than it is of 24Hr Fitness' facility.
Perhaps a Handicap Only sign at the beginning of the motorized stairs would be appropriate? Until someone started screaming "Discrimination".
Perhaps a Handicap Only sign at the beginning of the motorized stairs would be appropriate? Until someone started screaming "Discrimination".
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Obviously not. I suppose you also see no issue with the other gratuitous posts on this thread and often posted elsewhere on BF which ooze of smarmy bicyclist attitude toward strangers who don't choose the oh-so-darn-good-for-the Earth/health/whatever path of the enlightened bicyclist.
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Obviously not. I suppose you also see no issue with the other gratuitous posts on this thread and often posted elsewhere on BF which ooze of smarmy bicyclist attitude toward strangers who don't choose the oh-so-darn-good-for-the Earth/health/whatever path of the enlightened bicyclist.
But ranting on a forum is very different from accosting strangers and ranting at them.
The difference between simply ranting and directing a rant at someone, is pretty much where I draw the line.
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I rarely have issues with posts on forums, whether I agree o not, or how smarmy. That's what forums are for. People post facts or opinions, or simply vent, and it's sort of no harm, no foul. Of course, I reserve similar rights for myself.
But ranting on a forum is very different from accosting strangers and ranting at them.
The difference between simply ranting and directing a rant at someone, is pretty much where I draw the line.
But ranting on a forum is very different from accosting strangers and ranting at them.
The difference between simply ranting and directing a rant at someone, is pretty much where I draw the line.
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I live in a semi-rural area where people have their mailbox at the end of their driveway. I order to avoid walking to the box to pick up their mail, they will drive up to it in their vehicles. This often means that they will wind up on the shoulder facing against oncoming traffic. This is a serious hazard to cyclists who are forced to take the lane at an inopportune time. It also effects oncoming cars who generally swerve into oncoming traffic to avoid the vehicle on the shoulder.
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I think the problem was that they had shifted the topic so far from the OP that they became confused when an on topic comment floated to the surface.
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You think that's funny? Watch a gym parking lot right after the new year. Drivers "vulture" for parking spots as close to the gym as possible when there are wide open spots just 100 yards away from the door.
I sometimes just want to scream out, "If you'd WALK more than 10 yards maybe you wouldn't need a resolution to get yourself in a shape other than rotund!"
I sometimes just want to scream out, "If you'd WALK more than 10 yards maybe you wouldn't need a resolution to get yourself in a shape other than rotund!"
Still not as bad as some of what I see locally. People waiting to get a space right in front of the in door for Home Depot when the very next aisle is empty. So they wait to get a space 3 spaces down in the closest aisle. They save the whole of... LESS THAN NOTHING. They will end up going out the exit door so if one does care about steps it is how close the front of the row you are as long as you are in a row between the 2 doors.
Lazy and stupid.
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It seems some people could stand to aim a little higher in regards to what makes them feel morally superior....or better yet, try a little humility.
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Obviously not. I suppose you also see no issue with the other gratuitous posts on this thread and often posted elsewhere on BF which ooze of smarmy bicyclist attitude toward strangers who don't choose the oh-so-darn-good-for-the Earth/health/whatever path of the enlightened bicyclist.
I work hard not to be fat. I'm not a fanatic, but I walk where I can, take stairs where it's practical, and find physical activities I enjoy (I'm not disciplined enough to do things strictly for "fitness", they must be enjoyable to me).
Most people don't do that, and most fat people don't do a dam thing to be not fat. Therefore, my bias applies accurately to most of the fat people out there, I believe. Screw 'em. They're fat and lazy and costing all of us a bunch of money.
By the way, in case you think I'm a fanatic, I'm not. I like unhealthy food and indulge. But only to a certain extent. I exercise because I do things that are fun for me but not a zealot. I'm about 5-8 and ~165 LBS, not an Adonis by any means.
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The argument that such and such behavior by others is somehow impacting on you or costing you (or society) dough has a mirror image. I'm sure that something you do has a societal cost higher than average.
That's life, and if you're going to live in a free -- hopefully and sort of -- you have to accept and tolerate the choices others make, good and not so good, the same way you'd hope they can accept and tolerate yours. I'm not saying we have to accept all choices, some we regulate through law, and this post isn't about that.
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I don't have to think about if you are a fanatic or a zealot; your own words confirm it. But you ride a bike so that makes you believe you are something special and entitled to brag about your nasty bias.
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That's OK. I once saw somebody make three stops on one short string of errands. Stop one, go in for a minute, come out drive the car 1/2 block to the 2nd stop, then make a U-turn and drive back to the middle of the block for the 3rd errand. The total distance covered must have been less than 50 yards + crossing the street.
People are lazy.
People are lazy.
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I call it laziness, but maybe there should be a word that describes the lengths people go to to save walking a few yards. Visit any large shopping mall on a busy afternoon. You'll see folks driving round and round looking for a "convenient" spot near the entrance, or near the end of the mall where they plan to shop, while empty spaces go begging at the periphery.
So, is it "laziness" or do we have a more appropriate word for it in the English language. It's said that Inuits have 60 words for snow, maybe given all the ways we've become lazy, maybe Americans need 60 words for avoidance of physical effort.
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I guess that's 2 for starters.
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