Originally Posted by wphamilton

It appears that warrior4130 is wrong about the law in the majority of states, and his certainty misguided.

Originally Posted by warrior4130

Some ppl simply have too much time on their hands, and dream up whatever counter argument they deem appropriate to satisfy their pleasures. Go ahead and discount this, but without a doubt, at the end of the day, we will all be subject to whatever it is the imperial government decides is best...for both you and me. If it is to wear helmets...then that is what the law will demand. If it is to use insurance to passively force helmets on our heads, then so be that too (And by the way...last I saw some states were using insurance and illegal hiring practices to "weed" out smokers...and to some effect, fat ppl). Today it is kind of mute to argue this point, seeing there are helmet laws for motorcycles, helmet laws for kids, and helmet rules for professional riders. Handwriting is on the wall, best get used to wearing a helmet.

Originally Posted by OldTryGuy

To helmet or not to helmet, that is the question:

Whether 'tis wiser to crash and burn with noggin directly impacting terra firma, or what-ever,

Or to have some barrier between, THAT is the question....

Preach at the top of your lungs however you feel, but understand we have the right to disagree without being berated.

In a 60+ mph rear end crash, my wife suffered a subdural hematoma on the front of her brain. There was NO external IMPACT involved, just brain and skull. The interesting fact was that there was just as much concern with a possible HEART INJURY due to the compression of the seat belt across her chest.

I've bounced off the ground with helmet on a number of times after going down while riding. I've also face planted after tripping while in running races with nothing between face and pavement. As far as I know, I suffered no brain injuries so far, but had I not been wearing a helmet during my bicycle crashes I am not sure I would not have had a concussion.

Originally Posted by newbie101

One clear benefit, at least for me (and I'm sure it's been pointed out already), is that a helmet allows me to

-mount an extra pair of lights

-at a level or height easily seen

-and allows me to point the head light in any direction I choose.

Originally Posted by newbie101

One clear benefit, at least for me (and I'm sure it's been pointed out already), is that a helmet allows me to

-mount an extra pair of lights

-at a level or height easily seen

-and allows me to point the head light in any direction I choose.

Originally Posted by rydabent

carinus


OOOOOOOh that makes sense wear a harness with a light instead of a helmet. ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Originally Posted by newbie101

One clear benefit, at least for me (and I'm sure it's been pointed out already), is that a helmet allows me to

-mount an extra pair of lights

-at a level or height easily seen

-and allows me to point the head light in any direction I choose.

Originally Posted by Six jours

Two points: Firstly, "It's inevitable, so you should do it now" might be the worst argument I have ever encountered on the subject. Secondly, freedom is winning on quite a few fronts in this country, at the moment. You'd do well to ask pot smokers or firearm* carriers about the "inevitability" of loss of liberty before making such bold predictions.


*Let me take yet another opportunity to complain about "***" being censored on this forum. After more than twenty years of participation on online forums it remains the most childish rule I have ever seen.

Originally Posted by wphamilton

In addition the helmet is very convenient for attaching an MP3 player and earbuds - the cables don't get in the way that way, and cannot fall and get tangled up. I consider that an important safety feature.

Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike

Helmets might also be used for mounting religious statuettes, medallions or stickers; good way to double down on faith. You can't be too safe, eh?

Originally Posted by Six jours

Two points: Firstly, "It's inevitable, so you should do it now" might be the worst argument I have ever encountered on the subject. Secondly, freedom is winning on quite a few fronts in this country, at the moment. You'd do well to ask pot smokers or firearm* carriers about the "inevitability" of loss of liberty before making such bold predictions.


*Let me take yet another opportunity to complain about "***" being censored on this forum. After more than twenty years of participation on online forums it remains the most childish rule I have ever seen.

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets

Mods have to do a lot of cleaning, moving to P&R and banning because of use of the g word. I imagine the ban came about because of a couple of members who over used it in order to make every thread a guns debate.

So just relax and remember, you can still say ass.

Originally Posted by wphamilton

Although for the sake of those not reading the article, the comment was just an aside in a case having nothing to do with cycling and doesn't create binding authority. In fact, as the author goes on to say, the aside is not even true in Illinois state law.

It appears that warrior4130 is wrong about the law in the majority of states, and his certainty misguided.

Originally Posted by mconlonx

You can still say guns, too.

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets

Yep, I often use it in lieu of ***. I wonder I the asterisks in this thread's title are guns...

Originally Posted by newbie101

One issue I'm encountering is that the additional weight of two lights on the helmet is a bit more noticeable than I had anticipated. I'm using a cree flashlight separate mount and a pdx tail light with rubber mount.

Perhaps I'll just get used to it in a few more rides' time.

Originally Posted by RaleighSport

I am not here to get into the debate at all, I just thought there might be people here with experiences with the Giro Air attack helm with shield. I'd like to know how it does for every day riding as it's what I'm leaning towards picking up for myself.