Primarily when you run into a parked truck or a light pole. Falling to the ground and cracking your head on the road is fairly similar at 5 and 15 mph.

Higher speed can increase road rash and tumbling, however.

Force and damage pretty much goes up by the square of the speed.

Trajectory problems have two component vectors. The one normal to the ground is the one that greatly governs impact, and the mph you are riding is not the one that's normal to the ground.

Like I said above, riding speed counts more when your're running into parked trucks and lightpoles.

I have posted before that I wear a helmet myself because of the MHL.

By the way, do you wear other body protectors such as a neck guard while riding?

daihard

Where would I get a neck guard?

Let me google that for you

Just for you, Ryda.

Unfortunately, there are no known USCG Type I PFD's that will fit over a mountain cyclist neck guard.

-mr. bill

Hey, you want to be the kind of guy who rides without protecting his spine, that's your business. The world needs more organ donations.

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Doesnt apply to me, as they are listed for mountain bikes. I ride a LWB bent and a trike.

This is a helmet thread. Start a neck brace thread if you want to, or maybe a copper bracelet thread.

Gosh, and after I gave you a pass for posting about your safety flags on a helmet thread.

Regardless, this just goes to show (again) that you aren't really concerned about taking steps to improve your safety, but rather, concerned only with doing what you want to, justifying it any way you can, and then telling everyone else they are stupid if they don't behave exactly the same way.

Actually, this goes to show (again) that "advocates" who insist that OTHERS should wear a USCG Type I PFD while cycling while they themselves don't wear a USCG Type I PFD while cycling are disingenuous "advocates" at best.
Whatever else rydabent's faults are, he at least talks the talk *AND* rides the ride.

Apropos nothing at all, I'm unaware of *ANY* study on the effectiveness of USCG Type I PFDs while cycling on the road.

-mr. bill

So are we supposed to blame Massachusetts for that kind of nonsense, or am I not getting the point of your sig line?

Massachusetts does suck, and even though I was born there, it's become very obvious that I am not welcome there, so I reside in their former colony, Maine.

Maine's got no beef with Massachusetts, nor Massachusetts with Maine.

(It took a bit for Massachusetts to amend its Constitution after 1820, since the Massachusetts Constitution contained a provision that it could be amended, but only in 1795. At that time they said no need, but didn't bother to amend the Constitution so that the Constitution could be amended. Oops. The first nine amendments were done by an ad-hoc process in 1821. It was the ninth amendment to the Massachusetts Constitution that allowed the Constitution to be subsequently amended.)

But Maine's immediate neighbor to the South and West has been "fighting" with it for years.

New Hampshire v Maine, 1976
New Hampshire v Maine, 1977
New Hampshire v Maine, 2001

(Beyond trivia - Souter argued the first two cases, so recused himself from the third case.)

-mr. bill

I share the frustration because he won't defend his irrational position, yet accuses those in disagreement of lacking in intelligence. I personally agree with you that it's foolish to take special precautions for one activity and not for another having similar levels of risk.

But he does have a point in that the topic isn't about the safety of other activities, nor about anyone's logical consistency.

Sure he does, by irrationally repeating the same irrational position as if it were a mantra, over and over and over again.

Irrational???? Explain to me in detail why it is irrational to not want to be injured in an accident.

More "six jous" fantasies.

There are many anti-helmeteers that have "ragedquit". At least one has been "ragebanned". For the same exact tactics treating their targets as "simpletons".

It is irrational to not care about the risk of an accident injury in one kind of activity, while taking precautions against the same injury in a different activity having similar risks.

It's not unreasonable to refuse to discuss that inconsistency, in my opinion, in a forum thread dedicated to bicycle helmets. But to challenge someone to explain while as you've made clear in the past, having no intention of defending it, that will lead nowhere.

That's a pretty good example of why I don't bother much with your stuff. You don't read carefully enough to even know how to spell the words in your interlocutor's posts. Your syntax is so weird that sentences have to be read repeatedly before I understand what you're trying to say. You make a statement and then support it with something that doesn't actually support it at all, and exercise a very basic logical fallacy in the process. And the whole thing is packaged in this vague tone of anger and offense.

There's truly no point.

If you lived here in Maine, you'd know different. We'd prefer all the M*******s ship their cash up to us, but stay the heck out of the state.

Mostly, the issue of NH v. ME revolves around the Portsmouth [NH] Naval Shipyard which actually resides in Kittery ME. Maine claims it, but if it is ever shut down, I bet we would be more than happy to remand it back to NH regarding nuclear remediation costs...

Many have tried, all have failed. It's more about you than those who have tried. Irrational is the polite way of describing your position.

It was mostly about bugs, then morphed into naval yard.

Last time I was in Maine, I saw no locals, no locals saw me, and I spent no money.

Ironic that some (many) of the "we" (that is the 2/3) don't want "you" (the 8%) there either. Just like so much of New England, if you weren't born here, you aren't from around here. (I'm not from here either.)

-mr. bill

Spent no money?!? Stay out of our state, goat-roper!

I basically got kicked out of MA, so I don't disparage those that don't want us down there... but why on earth would we head down to the cesspool which is MA?

No goats. The sheep are gone. (I didn't take them.)

-mr. bill