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Chris516 01-24-15 07:35 PM

Front sensors on a vehicle
 
Mazda's 2015 Mazda6, has the front sensors.

trailangel 01-24-15 09:53 PM

Texting is OK in the 2015 Mazda6.

Chris516 01-24-15 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by trailangel (Post 17497774)
Texting is OK in the 2015 Mazda6.

lol

Leukybear 01-24-15 10:43 PM

They're called proximity sensors. Yes they do detect the mass of cyclists.

They're not new technology been around of for well over a decade now. As the saying for technology goes, if you didn't know you probably couldn't afford them at the time they were newfangled.

Most cars, aside from econoboxes like a yaris, have them as an option you would pay extra for. Even teslas.
You can even install them after market.

I'm assuming you're trying to imply that the mazda mehcar6 has them standard now?

Chris516 01-24-15 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by Leukybear (Post 17497871)
They're called proximity sensors. Yes they do detect the mass of cyclists.

They're not new technology been around of for well over a decade now. As the saying for technology goes, if you didn't know you probably couldn't afford them at the time they were newfangled.

Most cars, aside from econoboxes like a yaris, have them as an option you would pay extra for. Even teslas.
You can even install them after market.

I'm assuming you're trying to imply that the mazda mehcar6 has them standard now?

Not imply. That is what the new MAZDA commercial says.

alcjphil 01-25-15 03:25 PM

So what are these front sensors supposed to do? They can sense all they want, but unless they are connected to some kind of system that detects cyclists and pedestrians and takes action, they are useless to me when I ride my bike. For example, if they are tied in to an adaptive cruise control system they don't do me any good

Chris516 01-25-15 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by alcjphil (Post 17499362)
So what are these front sensors supposed to do? They can sense all they want, but unless they are connected to some kind of system that detects cyclists and pedestrians and takes action, they are useless to me when I ride my bike. For example, if they are tied in to an adaptive cruise control system they don't do me any good

Exactly!! They are useless. The radar of a fighter jet would be better than this garbage. Also, Suppose it is activated at the plant. But upon purchase, the purchaser deactivates it. Just another excuse not to pay attention.:mad:

howsteepisit 01-25-15 05:56 PM

If the sensors are useless, what is point of the OP?

Chris516 01-25-15 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by howsteepisit (Post 17499723)
If the sensors are useless, what is point of the OP?

My point in mentioning it, is because of how it could be mistakenly perceived as being helpful for both cyclists', and pedestrians.

howsteepisit 01-25-15 08:30 PM

I guess you could have made the point in the OP, but then clarity in heavily discounted in A&S.

Essex 01-25-15 08:33 PM

I was thinking of getting a Mazda 6, or 3. Nice looking cars. But I ended up with a Prius. More room for a bicycle. :winter:

Chris516 01-26-15 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by howsteepisit (Post 17500151)
I guess you could have made the point in the OP, but then clarity in heavily discounted in A&S.

I figured I would wait to see what others thought first. Before venturing an opinion.

tbo 01-26-15 10:50 AM

I remember a Mercedes Benz commercial from a few years ago that specifically touted this technology in regards to pedestrian / bicycle. But the example MB gave was specifically a pedestrian crossing directly in front of vehicle at 90 degrees - the classic setup of a child running into the street after a ball or similar. That's pretty simple stuff, actually.

There is no indication on how the system would work in the situation of, for example, a right-cross or left-cross where the vehicle is making the bad move in comparison to the other party (cyclist / pedestrian.)

I can't wait for autonomous vehicles.

mconlonx 01-26-15 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by alcjphil (Post 17499362)
So what are these front sensors supposed to do? They can sense all they want, but unless they are connected to some kind of system that detects cyclists and pedestrians and takes action, they are useless to me when I ride my bike. For example, if they are tied in to an adaptive cruise control system they don't do me any good


Originally Posted by Chris516 (Post 17499634)
Exactly!! They are useless. The radar of a fighter jet would be better than this garbage. Also, Suppose it is activated at the plant. But upon purchase, the purchaser deactivates it. Just another excuse not to pay attention.:mad:

Why do y'all not think that if the warning went off, drivers would take corrective action?

Chris516 01-26-15 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by mconlonx (Post 17502381)
Why do y'all not think that if the warning went off, drivers would take corrective action?

For me, it is because of something entirely different. I was watching a story on airline crash investigations. The crew in question, had turned off the TCAS(Total Collision Avoidance System). The crew's reasoning was because all the auditory warnings were becoming distracting.

So, While a driver may not be able to disable the auditory sensor warnings. They could ignore them.

mconlonx 01-26-15 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by Chris516 (Post 17502737)
So, While a driver may not be able to disable the auditory sensor warnings. They could ignore them.

I can't argue with this because I don't know how they work, but if was less overwhelming than the TCAS, and only sounded where there was truly an issue, I sincerely doubt drivers would ignore a warning alert. Then it would only be a matter of the driver being skilled enough to do something with the information which did not involve contact with a cyclist or pedestrian...

prathmann 01-26-15 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Chris516 (Post 17502737)
I was watching a story on airline crash investigations. The crew in question, had turned off the TCAS(Total Collision Avoidance System). The crew's reasoning was because all the auditory warnings were becoming distracting.

Which crash was this? TCAS would seem to be about the last thing you'd want to disable due to it being distracting. The only airline crashes I remember where TCAS was an issue were the one involving a Russian plane over Germany where TCAS gave one instruction and ATC directed the opposite and the crash in Brazil where the TCAS transponder was off but there was no indication the crew had turned it off intentionally and there had been some concerns about it turning off spontaneously.

alcjphil 01-26-15 10:25 PM

Here is what sensors can accomplish:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPTIXldrq3Q

enigmaT120 01-27-15 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Chris516 (Post 17502737)
So, While a driver may not be able to disable the auditory sensor warnings. They could ignore them.

That reminds me of those sunglasses that become darker in the presence of danger, so that you're not so afraid.


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