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Old 05-19-08, 06:47 PM
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oh, odd, then that these modern day builders would encorperate the third wheel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYB7CpwxcUw
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Originally Posted by Johnny Payphone
I suspect that this guy was having the same problem that Travis Duffy has, a huge giant wheel leading to poorly executed single flips and lots of tipping over,
thus all the gay safety gear
I can't disagree enough with the above statements.

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"will a metal/machine shop bend a ring for me and how much would that cost?"

Suggest you ask some of the other builders where they got the ring from.

Yes, some fabricating shops can roll metal sections to a radius, but it will just vary as to cost and capabilities at different shops. For what you'd need on this kind of thing, you might be able to work with a light enough section that you could use a conduit bender or home-made jig or something of the sort to bend it yourself.
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Originally Posted by travesties
I can't disagree enough with the above statements.
He has not built a flip bike, so the rule does not seem to apply to him. Its a bs rule anyway in my opinion.
Does he have a lot experience flipping one? How many successful flips? No and Few I suspect.
Chill out freak, I said it was my guess. Besides, my "rule" was applying to something as complex and subtle as a pennyfakething- not just a BMX bike with a ring on it.

I was just trying to help you- if you'd listened to me when you started then your bike wouldn't BE a failure. You should have sought instruction from somebody skilled at building and modifying bikes.

And what do they call YOU around town? Oh, that's right, they don't talk about you.

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Originally Posted by los buenos
oh, odd, then that these modern day builders would encorperate the third wheel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYB7CpwxcUw
Wow, 1.3 million views!
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ok yesterday i called a machine shop and the person there said they would have to have a ring mailed in for $300 (!!!) but today i scored a 7 foot metal spool for the electric company! the thing is massive but i got one of the sides spokes out so now i have a 7 foot ring
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ok yesterday i called a machine shop and the person there said they would have to have a ring mailed in for $300 (!!!) but today i scored a 7 foot metal spool for the electric company! the thing is massive but i got one of the sides spokes out so now i have a 7 foot ring
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it almost done, i just need to finish putting some trustable supports in there, it will probaby be done but it is too wet for stoppies anyway, sorry that all the pics i have for now but with another solid hour of welding and it will be done, im using a red x-games bike, ill post pics soon, probably tommorow
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Looks solid so far!

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I think that's the spool before he started on it.
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ya now its cut down to one ring with a space for the wheeels i just need to put forth the effort of wlding on it for, like, 2 hours
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I think that's the spool before he started on it.
It still looks solid, and should work perfectly for the end design.

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ok so i have it built, but i am afraid to flip it because the thing practicaly weighs more than i do, does anyone have any tips on losing the nervousness or making flips better besides having front brakes which i have decided to put on there
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Originally Posted by los buenos
does anyone have any tips on losing the nervousness
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>>ok so i have it built, but i am afraid to flip it because the thing practicaly weighs more than i do, does anyone have any tips on losing the nervousness or making flips better besides having front brakes which i have decided to put on there

Yes. But I don't know your machine. You didn't mention a harness. Also, you don't mention putting rubber on the ring to increase friction. With my machine, front brakes enable the entire trick, there IS no trick without strong front braking. If the bike weighs more than you do, then basically none of my advice here may apply. Weigh it if you can. It is pretty difficult for me to analyze a machine I know almost nothing about. What size wheels?

Here is something to get over the nervousness.
Wear pads. I think a helmet with face shield and wrist protectors are a wise idea. FOOK the critics on this, practice alone if you are shy about it. They will not be the ones getting dental implants or wearing a brace on their wrist. Don't try and catch yourself by putting the arm out.

Keep you neck and body stiff and tuck that head. The only concussion danger I can imagine is either slamming it sideways on pavement on fall, or banging it against the ring/ground when you are upside down. If you stay with the bike, mine will not crush your feet/legs. If you land with your whole body, I don't think there is so much danger. You are going so slow, its like tipping over on a bike going about 1/2 mpg.

Start on pavement for the launch, and then roll onto grass. Start the trick like a foot or two from where the grass begins. In this manner I got it on the third try. If you find that you lose momentum and are tipping over, then increase initial speed, and brake harder. Don't forget to release the brakes after you land. There is a danger of going TOO fast initially to the point where the front wheel is going to take quite a shot.

When you are landing that front wheel, keep the steering straight, or you will warp all but the toughest rim. I prefer to fall rather land with the steering positioned to correct any lean. I have now replaced the front rim twice, but they were crap. Keep checking that rim after you land.

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Originally Posted by los buenos
what the point of the third wheel?
I think he is asking the same thing..... probably just to make people ask questions. I would kill myself with one of those
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Originally Posted by doskiez
I think he is asking the same thing..... probably just to make people ask questions. I would kill myself with one of those
The third wheel. I don't know what they were thinking. it just adds weight to the overall machine, and the force it produces is minimal and is not a factor. People seem to be entranced, and rightfully so, with how a spinning wheel likes to stay where it is in space and if you move it it produces force, but this whole effect relies on rate of spin and I think mass. The force produced is not enough to be significant I think.
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