not knowing much of sweet FA about weight, but how important is core strength to a bench press? i would imagine verry, and the only real combining factor between all the guys mentioned would be thier core strength...

Sorry, I hit the wrong button...

To continue. I thnen have a look to see if I can drill and tap...can't do this cause it would compromise the strength of the derrailleur bracket. So now I've got a 5mm hex head through the hole, which is being tightened by a SS nut on the other side. Is working ok but looks CRAP. Looks like I'm up for a new front derraileur.

Anyone here have a 9 speed, triple Shimano Ultegra/Dura Ace braze on for sale?

It's more relevant to sqautting and DLs. Bench is a fully supported lift....all tris, shoulders and pecs.

Powerlifters use a lot of back arch and extreme techniques, but these are guys moving 500lbs+

back arch is considered bad yes?

for 99% of lifters, yes.

Pinch shoulder-blades together on the bench for a stable platform. Bar should come down to ~nipple line.

Geez, I have a little sleep in and I have to wade through 2 pages of drivel! *gack*

Existence, yes, the Tephra CTi is an amalgam of Carbon and Ti. Is it worth the upcharge over the Ti? I think it will give the best ride eva or I wouldn't introduce it to the top of the range. If I didn't think it was an improvement over straight Ti, I wouldn't make it.

Of course, nobody 'needs' anything more than a double butted cromoly bike with 105, but it sure is nice :D :beer:

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How excellent was the tour last night! I stayed up and watched the whole thing and it was totally riveting.

Menchov, Landis and Leipheimer looked very strong but it's early days yet. Everyone was still feeling the water but the war of attrition made for great TV.

The tour has finally begun! YESSSSS! :D

great to watch for sure, except I fell asleep on the beanbag at climb #3 and woke up at 2am to the world weather. :(

Get the **** Outta My Thread You Lance Lover!!!!!

;)

OMG how's this for some potential team clobber?!?!

http://www.met-helmets.com/docs/img/...ivariusoro.jpg

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:eek: :D :eek: :D

As Paris would say, "That's hot"

It was interesting seeing a team other than Discovery dominating the last climbs of the stage. Chicken and Boogie sure checked everything at it. The seppos are now in raptures about Floyd and his bung hip :rolleyes:

I may only need chromo and 105, but I upgraded from something like that three years ago and can't say I'd want to go back :) It's plastic and ultegra now baby !

They're very confused. They can only 'root' for one person at a time, so now Landis is the good cop (extra bonus for having something wrong with him, I mean appart from being a Seppo and a Menninite) and Leipheimer is a bad cop.

No idea why. Maybe because his surname is a little bit too German and Gerolsteiner is harder to pronounce than 'Phonak'?

Vette, you know the next step is Record and Titanium, right? ;) It happens to the best of us, trust me.

Titanium seems to be the long term platform of choice for a lot of riders. I have a mate with titanium roadie and MTB (Litespeed - used to own a bike shop) and he just upgrades the components every few years. I'll need some new money making venture to make that upgrade myself. My problem is I am always looking for a bargain and that'd be hard to find at the custom end of the market.

Floyd must feel really buggered after each stage with so many seppos rooting (for) him :p

I watched the TDF last night till about 10.50pm and then got a tap on the b*m from the wife. Funny enough, the TV went off pretty quickly.

Maybe it's those shaved legs wattsy.....:D

LOL !!

I bet wattsy wasn't rooting for Floyd :roflmao:

Can some one tell me how Leipheimer can be a bum yesterday on a relatively easy day and make like he's towing the QEII up some of those hills where today on the much harder day he's full of beans and racing for the win?

They do seem to be on the Flandis wagon a lot more than on Leipheimer. I was wondering of it is because Levi has been riding for Euro teams for a longer time & was not a Postie/Disco boy a couple of seasons ago?

I say a coment by Dave Zabreski about Flandis the other day which I liked tho... "not too many other guys in the peleton were willing to tell Lance to grow screw himself".
Excepting Robbie McEwan of course a few years back..:)

I have a modicum more respect for guys like Landis and (not really) Hamilton for at least having the balls to know their talent and give themselves the best opportunity to excel.

Guys like Hincapie have been Lances butt-boy for so long, in his absence they really don't know what to do with themselves. It's like they need someone to aspire to rather than step up and be that person themselves.

How else can you explain how lame-duck Discovery appears to be at the moment. It's not like they're lacking in talent.

ps: Landis is a ginger :D Go Floyd!

nooo, they are on the seppo that hs most chance of a win band wagon! throw in some phyisical lance type ailment and your all set for a strong yank favourite. 1st it was George, then when it wa shoen he didnt have the power to pull the skin off a rice pudding it was onto the lesser knowns....

I cant stand Landis, never have been able to. maybee its the phonak thing cause i could never really find myself liking tyler hamilton either.

I think Caldel managed to upset lance by going or the stage win last year ahead of lance, like how dare he!

id imagine that hes amazingly sporting a higher red cell count than the day before.... as the song fro a few years ago says it " drugs, and money but there aint nothing your gonna do about it "

Done that on about 5 stages so far :(

Quote of the day:

Gert Steegmans (Davitamon, 160th at 44'20)

"I'm completely f***ed up. Even the speed of the bus was almost too fast for me."

For fear of getting kicked off the site, I'm going to leave this one alone...sufficed to say I was climbing my own peaks last night.

Apparently that had something to do with it...One doesn't ask in these situations, one just 'goes with the flow'.