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Indyguy 05-09-15 02:10 PM

Front derailleur issues
 
I just picked up this bike last week, its my first bike in my adulthood so I am still learning

I am having issues shifting my front derailleur, I have been watching videos, reading, and adjusting for the past few hours
May have to take it to the shop but thought I would ask for some advice first

I have 3 gear on my crankset

It is physically hard to shift though the gears because the cable get very tight
When I loosen the cable to make it easier to shift there is not enough tension shift though the gears


Im thinking I may have bought someones project bike, thought I was getting a decent bike :(

HillRider 05-09-15 02:15 PM

Details as to the make and model of the front derailleur and crank and the type of shifter you have are needed before anyone can even guess at what should be done.

Indyguy 05-09-15 02:33 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Derailleur Shimano 105
Shifter: Shimano 105 (?)
Crank Octalink

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=450223http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=450221http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=450225

FBinNY 05-09-15 02:42 PM

What follows are generic instructions for front derailleurs. The details may vary, but the general principles and methods are basically the same for all.

Start by checking that the outer cage plate is parallel to the face of the outer chainring, and that when directly over the teeth it clears by 2-3mm. There's fudge room, but use this as the starting place, and don't fudge unless you know haw and why.

Set the inner limit, so the inside cage plate just clears the chain when in low gear (granny/big). It helps to take weight off the screw by manually moving the FD out (pull on the cable a bit) so the limit screw turns easier. Make this a habit whenever adjusting the inner limit. In low the FD should be resting on the inner limit, not hanging from the cable, and the cable should be slightly slack.

Move the RD to the outer third of the cassette and shift to then outer front by pulling the wire away from the down tube (ignore the levers for awhile). Back off the outer limit until you can shift to high and beyond, dumping the chain over the outside. Now trial and error bring the limit in by degrees, testing by pulling the wire until you cannot overshift. Test this a number of times and if in doubt you can bring the outer limit in another 8th turn, but no more.The goal is to find the outermost setting that prevents overshifting. Now the manual shifts from mid ring to high should be clean and crisp.

Now that both limits are set, adjust the cable trim. (now is when you'll first use the levers) This is easier with a barrel adjuster, otherwise you need to loosen and reset it at the pinch bolt. various mechanics have their own version of "best" for the trim adjustment, and the details will vary if, for example, the lever offers a trim click. However my general preference is to adjust according to high gear trim, so shift to high in the back, and adjust the trim so the outer plate just clears the chain, then test for crisp shifting. My preference is for the innermost trim that clears the chain and shifts crisply.

Lastly, test shifting and trim on all sprockets, which should be close, but may need a tweak. Likewise the inner limit might need a slight tweak for clean shift and trim in low.

HillRider 05-09-15 03:54 PM

Most obvious to me from your pictures is that your front derailleur is set much too high above the big chainring. The outer cage should just clear the tallest teeth in the big chainring by 2-3 mm. First correct that. Then, as FB recommended, disconnect the cable and set the low and high limit screws as he suggests.

Finally, when you connect the shift cable (the routing over the pinch bolt looks correct in your third photo) be sure the shifter has been set to the lowest gear position by clicking the inner lever several time and then pull the slack out of the cable and tighten it in place. Then refine the shifting with the barrel adjuster on your frame.

FBinNY 05-09-15 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by HillRider (Post 17791100)
Most obvious to me from your pictures is that your front derailleur is set much too high above the big chainring. The outer cage should just clear the tallest teeth in the big chainring by 2-3 mm. First correct that. ...

Agree that dropping the FD will help (was the first step in my earlier post), but you appear to have limited clearance at the heel. So when you do drop it, be sure to watch the clearance back there. You want at least 1mm or so in case anything should move.

Indyguy 05-11-15 07:00 PM

Issue solved!!
To the bike someone to look at it, not a shop an individual not to far away, went to an individual so I could see what he did and learn.
The PO hooked the cable to the derailleur incorrectly, when I took the cable off myself and hooked it back up I always connected it the same way never thought about it not being correct.

Everything seems to be riding smooth, but have only gone around our 1/2 mile circle in the neighborhood.
Hopefully get a small ride in tomorrow weather depending


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