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saturnsc2 11-11-15 03:04 PM

removing pedals
 
on a 3 piece crank with 9/16" threads which way do you turn the pedal shafts to remove them? i don't remember the proper way.

RPK79 11-11-15 03:09 PM

Are you talking about crank arms or pedals? I'm super confused...

Pedals you turn towards the rear - so righty loosey for the NDS and lefty loosey for the DS.

1983 11-11-15 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by RPK79 (Post 18311786)
Are you talking about crank arms or pedals? I'm super confused...

Did you miss the thread title?

RPK79 11-11-15 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by 1983 (Post 18311830)
Did you miss the thread title?

No, but I also read the OP.

1983 11-11-15 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by RPK79 (Post 18311839)
No, but I also read the OP.

"also" - so you did or didn't miss it?

The only threaded part of the crank is where the pedals are installed...the 9/16" should have also given that away.

RPK79 11-11-15 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by 1983 (Post 18311857)
"also" - so you did or didn't miss it?

The only threaded part of the crank is where the pedals are installed...the 9/16" should have also given that away.

You going to add some content then or you just here to troll me?

1983 11-11-15 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by RPK79 (Post 18311860)
You going to add some content then or you just here to troll me?

You're making it easy. Also - clarified your confusion for later readers.

RubeRad 11-11-15 03:30 PM

The right side is right (-handed threads, so righty-tighty, lefty-loosey when facing the right side of the bike).

The left side is not (it's left-handed threads, so righty-loosey, lefty-tighty when facing the left side of the bike).

When the bike is upright, and a pedal wrench is upright, then for BOTH pedals, turning the wrench towards the front of the bike is tightening (to get the bike ready to ride (forward) you should tighten your pedals), and turning the wrench towards the rear of the bike is loosening)

If you think about it, these mnemonics agree with each other.

RPK79 11-11-15 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by 1983 (Post 18311863)
You're making it easy. Also - clarified your confusion for later readers.

Your snark isn't very good. It's too overpowering to be entertaining and not subtle enough to show proper refinement. You're not going to make it here on BF.

Jeff_Caul 11-11-15 04:10 PM

The side with the chain rings is righty tighty, lefty loosey. The opposite side, is the opposite (lefty tighty, righty loosey)

rmfnla 11-11-15 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by saturnsc2 (Post 18311770)
on a 3 piece crank with 9/16" threads which way do you turn the pedal shafts to remove them? i don't remember the proper way.


Originally Posted by RPK79 (Post 18311839)
No, but I also read the OP.

:beer:

fietsbob 11-11-15 04:36 PM

LH thread Pedal Is Marked

1983 11-12-15 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by RPK79 (Post 18311872)
Your snark isn't very good. It's too overpowering to be entertaining and not subtle enough to show proper refinement. You're not going to make it here on BF.

"Making it" on bf means something to you? Don't quit your day job.

Btw a snark is an imaginary animal; brush up on some English there bud.

edit - looks like I need to brush up some English instead.

RPK79 11-12-15 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by 1983 (Post 18313248)
"Making it" on bf means something to you? Don't quit your day job.

Btw a snark is an imaginary animal; brush up on some English there bud.

I simply meant you will likely become a banned user in the near future not that you would somehow strike it rich in the world of bikeforums.net.

Snark has more than one meaning.

snark[SUP]2[/SUP]
snärk/
North American informal
verb
verb: snark; 3rd person present: snarks; past tense: snarked; past participle: snarked; gerund or present participle: snarking
  • 1.
    make snide and sharply critical comments.
    "they even snark about her family background"




noun
noun: snark; plural noun: snarks
  • 1.
    snide and sharply critical comments.
    "a worthwhile blog cannot live on snark alone"





Origin
mid 19th century: originally in the dialect senses ‘snore, snort,’ ‘find fault.’

1983 11-12-15 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by RPK79 (Post 18313504)
I simply meant you will likely become a banned user in the near future not that you would somehow strike it rich in the world of bikeforums.net.

Snark has more than one meaning.

snark[SUP]2[/SUP]
snärk/
North American informal
verb
verb: snark; 3rd person present: snarks; past tense: snarked; past participle: snarked; gerund or present participle: snarking
  • 1.
    make snide and sharply critical comments.
    "they even snark about her family background"

noun
noun: snark; plural noun: snarks
  • 1.
    snide and sharply critical comments.
    "a worthwhile blog cannot live on snark alone"


Origin
mid 19th century: originally in the dialect senses ‘snore, snort,’ ‘find fault.’

Well I'll be, looks like you out English'd me, point to you right there (herein my vested interest in most conversations is revealed, hence my peanut gallery commentary laced with cheap tricks which work almost every time).

And may the gods of bf have mercy on me lest I be banned and retreat back to real life!!

RubeRad 11-12-15 11:21 AM

Since OP got his question answered, I recommend a mod close this thread down before 1983 and RPK79 escalate to a point where they both get banned!

RPK79 11-12-15 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 18313823)
Since OP got his question answered, I recommend a mod close this thread down before 1983 and RPK79 escalate to a point where they both get banned!

Don't worry about me. I'm over it. Your correct though; OP has had their answer since post 2 and several times since.

Ronsonic 11-12-15 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by saturnsc2 (Post 18311770)
on a 3 piece crank with 9/16" threads which way do you turn the pedal shafts to remove them? i don't remember the proper way.


With the bike upright, Turn your wrench over the top toward the back of the bike to remove and toward the front to tighten. This is true whether using the flats or an allen wrench from the back.

scott967 11-12-15 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 18311868)
The right side is right (-handed threads, so righty-tighty, lefty-loosey when facing the right side of the bike).

The left side is not (it's left-handed threads, so righty-loosey, lefty-tighty when facing the left side of the bike).

When the bike is upright, and a pedal wrench is upright, then for BOTH pedals, turning the wrench towards the front of the bike is tightening (to get the bike ready to ride (forward) you should tighten your pedals), and turning the wrench towards the rear of the bike is loosening)

If you think about it, these mnemonics agree with each other.

I've never liked the "righty-tighty" concept for pedals. It's OK if you use a pedal wrench, but if the pedals use a hex from the back it can get confusing, in particular if you have to remove the crank to get enough leverage and remove the pedal with the crank in a vice.

scott s.
.

rmfnla 11-12-15 01:25 PM

If you assemble enough bikes you soon get used to tightening pedals by freewheeling, so it's easy to remember removal is just the opposite...

RubeRad 11-12-15 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by rmfnla (Post 18314260)
If you assemble enough bikes you soon get used to tightening pedals by freewheeling, so it's easy to remember removal is just the opposite...

This is true, but before you can freewheel the pedals on or drive the pedals off, you have to remember the threading rule in order to either initially thread them or crack them loose. Besides, as a mnemonic it's backwards (to me) -- it would be easier to remember if you drive the wheel in order to drive the bike (when you need the pedals on), and freewheel if you don't want to drive the bike (when you want the pedals off), but unfortunately that's opposite of the way the mechanisms actually work.

RubeRad 11-12-15 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by scott967 (Post 18314242)
I've never liked the "righty-tighty" concept for pedals. It's OK if you use a pedal wrench, but if the pedals use a hex from the back it can get confusing, in particular if you have to remove the crank to get enough leverage and remove the pedal with the crank in a vice.

You're right, the righty-tighty/lefty-tighty mnemonic suffers from its dependency on perspective.

However, the wrench forwards/on vs backwards/off suffers from a dependence on an upright bike. Half the time I take pedals off I turn the bike upside down, which reverses that mnemonic (and makes it not memorable). For people with easy,convenient access to workstands all the time (i.e. shop mechanics), this is not an issue.

rmfnla 11-12-15 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 18314283)
This is true, but before you can freewheel the pedals on or drive the pedals off, you have to remember the threading rule in order to either initially thread them or crack them loose.

Not really.

To install, put the pedal in place by hand and freewheel until the treads engage, then finish up with the wrench.

To remove, put the wrench on and go opposite of freewheel to break free.

After you've built a few hundred bikes this becomes automatic...

RubeRad 11-12-15 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by rmfnla (Post 18314309)
To install, put the pedal in place by hand and freewheel until the treads engage, then finish up with the wrench.

I'd be afraid of cross-threading. I ruined a nice crank once by letting a friend's kid 'help' me with some pedals, I didn't realize he had cross-threaded my pedal and jammed it in there until the pedal fell out when I was riding. Fortunately a local shop was able to save the crank with helicoil.

rmfnla 11-12-15 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by RubeRad (Post 18314327)
I'd be afraid of cross-threading. I ruined a nice crank once by letting a friend's kid 'help' me with some pedals, I didn't realize he had cross-threaded my pedal and jammed it in there until the pedal fell out when I was riding. Fortunately a local shop was able to save the crank with helicoil.

I refer you to my "After you've built a few hundred bikes" remark... :beer:


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