Lower gearing with compact crank
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Lower gearing with compact crank
I purchased on older Norco CCX-2 Cyclocross bike. The drive train is Sora 9 speed,compact 48/34 crank, 11- 25 Cassette and Tiagra derailler. I live in a hilly area and I am finding the bike does not have sufficient low gearing.
I am thinking adding a Shimano Deore 9-Speed Mountain Bicycle Rear Derailleur - RD-M592, a 9 speed cassette 12-36 preferrably or a 11-34 and a new chain.
While this solution is not weight friendly I cannot see why it should not be a workable solution. The bike will get relatively low usage ie rail trails, back roads and one event every year (Paris to Ancaster 70km race)
Is this a workable solution? Are there any other workable solutions to make this a more hill friendly bike?
Thanks in advance for your opinions
Bob
I am thinking adding a Shimano Deore 9-Speed Mountain Bicycle Rear Derailleur - RD-M592, a 9 speed cassette 12-36 preferrably or a 11-34 and a new chain.
While this solution is not weight friendly I cannot see why it should not be a workable solution. The bike will get relatively low usage ie rail trails, back roads and one event every year (Paris to Ancaster 70km race)
Is this a workable solution? Are there any other workable solutions to make this a more hill friendly bike?
Thanks in advance for your opinions
Bob
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11-25 is a pretty tight cassette. If you were to bring your bike to me looking for an easier hill climb gear, the first thing that I would suggest would be a wider range cassette with whatever rear derailleur it would take to make it work.
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The 9 speed 36 cog cassette is a bit of a boat anchor. I think I'd go with the SLX 11-34 - the largest 3 gears are on a alloy carrier and a 34 with a 34 up front should work for almost anything.
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We have the 9 speed 12-36 on our tandem for a stump pulling gear (28 tooth front). It has so much torque I fear we are going to rip it off of the rear wheel on some bigger hills.
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34t is as low as you can go on a 110 bcd compact crank, without replacing it.
so, lowering gear range with a bigger large cog cassette is your only hope.
Except of course a Hybridized IGH/cassette rear wheel, then there is a triple
inside the rear hub so the chainring/rear cog combination passes through
a planetary reduction gear in the hub. (in low, 3rd is an overdrive gear)
the hub-shell is turning more frequently than the cassette driver.. 0.75:1
(Its not weightless either)
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so, lowering gear range with a bigger large cog cassette is your only hope.
Except of course a Hybridized IGH/cassette rear wheel, then there is a triple
inside the rear hub so the chainring/rear cog combination passes through
a planetary reduction gear in the hub. (in low, 3rd is an overdrive gear)
the hub-shell is turning more frequently than the cassette driver.. 0.75:1
(Its not weightless either)
//
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Okay, increasing the weight of your bike to 39lbs WILL have an appreciable effect on speed and climbing effort. Still better than weight weenies with only one bottle cage.
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I purchased on older Norco CCX-2 Cyclocross bike. The drive train is Sora 9 speed,compact 48/34 crank, 11- 25 Cassette and Tiagra derailler. I live in a hilly area and I am finding the bike does not have sufficient low gearing.
I am thinking adding a Shimano Deore 9-Speed Mountain Bicycle Rear Derailleur - RD-M592, a 9 speed cassette 12-36 preferrably or a 11-34 and a new chain.
While this solution is not weight friendly I cannot see why it should not be a workable solution. The bike will get relatively low usage ie rail trails, back roads and one event every year (Paris to Ancaster 70km race)
Is this a workable solution? Are there any other workable solutions to make this a more hill friendly bike?
Thanks in advance for your opinions
Bob
I am thinking adding a Shimano Deore 9-Speed Mountain Bicycle Rear Derailleur - RD-M592, a 9 speed cassette 12-36 preferrably or a 11-34 and a new chain.
While this solution is not weight friendly I cannot see why it should not be a workable solution. The bike will get relatively low usage ie rail trails, back roads and one event every year (Paris to Ancaster 70km race)
Is this a workable solution? Are there any other workable solutions to make this a more hill friendly bike?
Thanks in advance for your opinions
Bob
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I'd look into something with a 32 -- a 34 in the front and a 32 in the rear can get you up a lot. It's what I climbed 11-12% on with a healing broken ankle and two torn ligaments, fresh off the couch for 2 months. If you can fit a x-34 in the back then do it...but the difference between a 25 and a 32 in the rear is insane. The difference between a 28 and a 32 in the rear is insane.
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I'd look into something with a 32 -- a 34 in the front and a 32 in the rear can get you up a lot. It's what I climbed 11-12% on with a healing broken ankle and two torn ligaments, fresh off the couch for 2 months. If you can fit a x-34 in the back then do it...but the difference between a 25 and a 32 in the rear is insane. The difference between a 28 and a 32 in the rear is insane.
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I just recently went from a 11-28 to a 12-32 and the difference was amazing. I was always able to power over all of the climbs with the 34-28 but having a 34-32 really helped me maintain a cadence that prevented sore knees. The 12-32 cassette worked with my short cage 105 RD, although Shimano lists a 30 as being the largest cassette that RD is compatible with. I bought the cassette first and tried it with my RD figuring that if it didn't I'd use a MTB RD but since it did I was able to save that extra money.
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An 11-32 or 34 cassette is definitely the way to go. I recently built up an old Specialized Sequoia sport touring frame, with a Stronglight 50-34 compact crank, Deore XT rear derailleur and an 11-32 cassette. It shifts well and the gearing can get almost as low as my touring bikes with triple cranks. I recently rode for a week in southern Wisconsin with some very hilly roads and had no trouble getting up steepest hills sitting down.
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Everyone's needs are as different as their bodies. That said, I've discovered I really don't
need an 11 or 12 tooth. My highest is a 15. What you say? Well here's the thing, there
are an awful lot a hills around here. It is for me easier & more sustainable to maintain a slightly
higher cadence than to grind my way into a hill & shift a the last moment. I'm not a racer;
I just want to get where I'm going with minimal struggle. I favor old 2 x 5 10 spds, pretty
hard to cross-chain one. Technology can be overrated. I often think it's really about marketing.
P.S. Nice ride, Tarwheel
need an 11 or 12 tooth. My highest is a 15. What you say? Well here's the thing, there
are an awful lot a hills around here. It is for me easier & more sustainable to maintain a slightly
higher cadence than to grind my way into a hill & shift a the last moment. I'm not a racer;
I just want to get where I'm going with minimal struggle. I favor old 2 x 5 10 spds, pretty
hard to cross-chain one. Technology can be overrated. I often think it's really about marketing.
P.S. Nice ride, Tarwheel
Last edited by rawly old; 07-23-16 at 03:38 PM.
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