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Old 09-13-16, 09:47 AM
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Removing Lock Ring

If I can't find a spanner wrench is it safe to tap and hammer a lock ring? Barring an obvious label how do I determine threading direction? Thanks!
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Find a BB wrench. You might have success doing it the hammer and chisel way, but you'll chew up the lockring.
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Not sure what you mean by "tap", but I wouldn't hesitate to use a brass punch and a small hammer to remove that lock ring. You should be able to find the starter thread, and determine the proper direction based on it's direction.
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Counterclockwise.

Always on non-drive side.

VAR lock ring pliers is my favorite tool for the job.
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Originally Posted by Grand Bois
Counterclockwise.

Always on non-drive side.

VAR lock ring pliers is my favorite tool for the job.

Yes, tell us the brand and year and we'll be able to give you a better guess for the right hand side.
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Originally Posted by andr0id
Yes, tell us the brand and year and we'll be able to give you a better guess for the right hand side.
It's a mid 60's Motobecane. The crankset in there was a Solida 52/42.
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Originally Posted by jorglueke
It's a mid 60's Motobecane. The crankset in there was a Solida 52/42.
It is probably French and going to be right hand threaded on both sides. (Like Italian)
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Certainly French threaded.

Don't damage the lock ring. French ones are becoming hard to find. So are 60's Motobecanes.

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You can make a lock ring plier by filing a water pump plier.
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Agreed with the above posters. If you actually own the bike and aren't flipping it, there's no reason not to have a hook spanner, as it won't be the last time you use it.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
You can make a lock ring plier by filing a water pump plier.
+1 I love making my own tools.
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
You can make a lock ring plier by filing a water pump plier.

Also known as channel locks...
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Originally Posted by rmfnla
Also known as channel locks...
Sorry, ESL here.
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I hate hook spanners!
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Originally Posted by Reynolds
Sorry, ESL here.
My late father-in-law, who was a very good auto mechanic, always called them water pump pliers, too. I call them channel locks.
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Originally Posted by well biked
My late father-in-law, who was a very good auto mechanic, always called them water pump pliers, too. I call them channel locks.
I've never heard that! Channel locks here...
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Nice one reynolds. Now I know what to do with that old set with most of the teeth worn off.

VERY old name- Water pump pliers. I dont think you could use these pliers on a water pump since 1923.
Current "popular" name- Channel locks. Named used from the company that made good ones.

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Originally Posted by well biked
My late father-in-law, who was a very good auto mechanic, always called them water pump pliers, too. I call them channel locks.
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I've never heard that! Channel locks here...
Nor have I.

Come to think of it, I've never used any kind of pliers when changing out a water pump...
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Like Crescent, Channel Locks is a Company name gone generic , like Hoover & Allen ..
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Multi grips here in the shaky isles (NZ), great hack by the way I also dislike hook spanners. Had never heard of the term 'channel lock' until my american cycling wingman pointed out the brand name on my good pair.
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Originally Posted by andr0id
It is probably French and going to be right hand threaded on both sides. (Like Italian)
Didn't some 'becanes back then come with Swiss threads?
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I turned up this article which is tangentially relevant (and a fun read)-

What Is a Pin Wrench?
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The generic term for channel locks I've seen a lot is "groove joint pliers"
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