Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

Clicking while pedaling under load

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

Clicking while pedaling under load

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-30-16 | 09:03 AM
  #1  
gohabsgo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 40
Likes: 1
From: Kelowna, BC

Bikes: old Kona Cindercone, 2010 Devinci Silverstone SL3, 2015 Giant Trance, 2015 Wilier zero 9

Clicking while pedaling under load

Hi, I have a 2015 Wilier zero 9 that I have had for about 3 months - about 2500KM on it so far. It recently started clicking when climbing a significant grade - > 8% or so, and riding out of the saddle. It started out as only at the bottom of the left pedal stroke.

So .. I took it in to the LBS where I bought it and they removed BB regreased the bearings and cups and reassembled. Next ride same deal but now seems to be happening on both strokes. The sound is not super loud so I don't hear it unless I am on a slow climb since the wind noise may be masking it at a normal cadence - plus the force applied is much less on a normal cadence that these climbs.

Any idea where the sound may be coming from and how to fix it?

Cheers,
Larry
gohabsgo is offline  
Reply
Old 09-30-16 | 09:35 AM
  #2  
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 39,897
Likes: 3,865
From: New Rochelle, NY

Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Clicking, synchronous with the crank is one of the hardest things to diagnose on a bike. It can come from anywhere. Knowing the details of the components and type of BB helps because some are more prone to clicking than others.

However, before doing ANYTHING else, I always remove both pedals, clean the threads and faces of both the cranks and pedals, apply fresh grease and reassemble TIGHT. The pedal/crank interface probably accounts for about 1/3 of the instances, but even if the odds are lower it's still place to start because it's the easiest to eliminate.

If that doesn't work, borrow a pair of plain pedals known to be OK to rule out your pedals.

After checking the above, then you can look at the BB, but other than pedals the devil is in the details. Some cranks may click on the spindle, some spindles in the bearings, and some entire BB systems move within the frame. Besides the pedal/BB area, clicking can also come from anywhere on the bike, because when you pedal hard, you're flexing everything.

BTW - one simple and overlooked cause is the chain on the rings as it passes pickup pins or shift gates. Chain on ring clicks are usually more pronounced when the chain is coming from either side of the cassette than the middle.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline  
Reply
Old 09-30-16 | 10:06 AM
  #3  
Jarrett2's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 4,126
Likes: 3
From: DFW

Bikes: Steel 1x's

Chainring bolts might need to be tightened. Chain could be rubbing the front DR.

That's around the time my Roubaix started making weird noises too. Since I was selling it, I didn't investigate too much.

Last edited by Jarrett2; 09-30-16 at 10:10 AM.
Jarrett2 is offline  
Reply
Old 09-30-16 | 10:16 AM
  #4  
gohabsgo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 40
Likes: 1
From: Kelowna, BC

Bikes: old Kona Cindercone, 2010 Devinci Silverstone SL3, 2015 Giant Trance, 2015 Wilier zero 9

Originally Posted by FBinNY
Clicking, synchronous with the crank is one of the hardest things to diagnose on a bike. It can come from anywhere. Knowing the details of the components and type of BB helps because some are more prone to clicking than others.

However, before doing ANYTHING else, I always remove both pedals, clean the threads and faces of both the cranks and pedals, apply fresh grease and reassemble TIGHT. The pedal/crank interface probably accounts for about 1/3 of the instances, but even if the odds are lower it's still place to start because it's the easiest to eliminate.

If that doesn't work, borrow a pair of plain pedals known to be OK to rule out your pedals.

After checking the above, then you can look at the BB, but other than pedals the devil is in the details. Some cranks may click on the spindle, some spindles in the bearings, and some entire BB systems move within the frame. Besides the pedal/BB area, clicking can also come from anywhere on the bike, because when you pedal hard, you're flexing everything.

BTW - one simple and overlooked cause is the chain on the rings as it passes pickup pins or shift gates. Chain on ring clicks are usually more pronounced when the chain is coming from either side of the cassette than the middle.
Thanks for the reply. I think the BB should be OK since the LBS just serviced it. The noise was present before and persisted after the service. I discount the chain as now the noise seems to be on both pedal strokes, so the chain noise would not be that consistent. Pedals does seem like a logical place to start. I will have it back in to LBS to correct since it is still under free service period.

Cheers,
Larry
gohabsgo is offline  
Reply
Old 09-30-16 | 11:59 AM
  #5  
NYMXer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 1,493
Likes: 11
From: Middletown NY

Bikes: Cannondale SuperSix EVO w Hi-Mod frame, Raleigh Tamland 1 and Giant Anthem X

I've had pedal/crank clicking noises three times already and the issues was:
1.) my shoe clips (replaced them)
2.) the cable for the front derailleur hitting the pedal
3.) a bad pedal

All three times, I would have bet that it was the bottom bracket and going to be a pain to fix. I was relieved to find that all three times, the fix was easy.

Sometimes, a little looking around pays off.
NYMXer is offline  
Reply
Old 09-30-16 | 04:54 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 663
Likes: 3
The left crank arm BB interface is the most common cause of clicking. This will occur when the left pedal goes past 12 o clock headed to 11 o clock.

Since BB was reinstalled I doubt it was that.

Like someone above mentioned trying a different set of pedal -being sure to grease the pedal threads and tighten the pedals will tell you if it is the pedals.

A loose cassette is one of the easiest to check and most often overlooked cures.
Rick Imby is offline  
Reply
Old 09-30-16 | 05:13 PM
  #7  
rm -rf's Avatar
don't try this at home.
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 6,220
Likes: 704
From: N. KY
My rear quick release made the same noise. It only happened when pushing hard on the pedals. I was so sure it was the bottom bracket!

I cleaned the external cam on the quick release, wiped the frame where it clamped, and tightened the clamp a little more than I did originally. Fixed. I have to do this every couple of months.

~~~~
The other common cause is at the crankarm - crank axle splines, if it's one of those two-bolt style attachments. It's normally fixed by wiping off the splines, then greasing them before reassembly.
rm -rf is offline  
Reply
Old 09-30-16 | 05:25 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 39,897
Likes: 3,865
From: New Rochelle, NY

Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Originally Posted by rm -rf
My rear quick release made the same noise. It only happened when pushing hard on the pedals. I was so sure it was the bottom bracket!.....
+1,

Add rear QR to the list of things to check early on.

As I tried to make clear in my earlier post, there are almost countless possibilities, and it's often a matter of working though the list.

There are two intelligent approaches.

You could do it analytically, focusing on the most likely possibilities first.

OR, You can assume that the list is too long, and there's little basis for ranking by odds so far, so instead do the simplest, easiest and cheapest things first, ie. pedals, rear QR, torque cassette lockring, seat post/saddle clamp, cleats and latches, and similar possibilities.

Odds are about 50/50 that you'll find the problem before having to get in to anything more complex or subtle. If not, having eliminated the easy stuff, you can out o your thinking cap and start taking the bike apart.

Here's another trick I use that might help. I make up a small batch of "diagnostic oil" consisting of less than 10% of a heavy oil dissolved in a volatile solvent like naphtha. I apply to places of interest, one at a time and see if I find one where it makes a difference. The thin oil wicks in quickly and deeply and may cure the clicking for a short while. However you'll know where to put your efforts.

The key is to only tread on area at a time, and ride in between. If you treat too many places and the click goes away, you still won't know where it was.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline  
Reply
Old 09-30-16 | 05:33 PM
  #9  
gohabsgo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 40
Likes: 1
From: Kelowna, BC

Bikes: old Kona Cindercone, 2010 Devinci Silverstone SL3, 2015 Giant Trance, 2015 Wilier zero 9

Update: Just had the LBS take off, lube and replace the pedals. They also took out the seatpost and greased it. Short ride and up a big enough hill and same noise.

So far ... it is not the BB, seatpost or pedals - unless my cleats just suddenly started something - but the LBS looked at them and discounted that too.

Larry
gohabsgo is offline  
Reply
Old 09-16-20 | 06:23 AM
  #10  
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Same problem, no solution yet

Originally Posted by gohabsgo
Update: Just had the LBS take off, lube and replace the pedals. They also took out the seatpost and greased it. Short ride and up a big enough hill and same noise.

So far ... it is not the BB, seatpost or pedals - unless my cleats just suddenly started something - but the LBS looked at them and discounted that too.

Larry
I can hear clicking when I pedal (standing) up a hill.
4 year-old bike, new pedals, just changed the bb, still hearing the noise.

After he pushed the pedals really hard to see where the noise was coming, mechanic says the frame might have a fissure/small crack.
After this, the noise is even more audible. The crack might have expanded!?

I'm still not sure it's a fissure and am looking for a solution.

Any updates on yours?
Nisiparoshu is offline  
Reply
Old 09-16-20 | 08:19 AM
  #11  
cyclist2000's Avatar
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 4,697
Likes: 2,039
From: Up

Bikes: Masi, Giant TCR, Eisentraut (retired), Jamis Aurora Elite, Zullo, Cannondale, 84 & 93 Stumpjumpers, Waterford, Tern D8, Bianchi, Gunner Roadie, Serotta, Serotta Duette, was gifted a Diamond Back

on one of my steel bikes there was a clicking noise that was caused by a crack in the chain stay.
cyclist2000 is offline  
Reply
Old 09-16-20 | 08:29 AM
  #12  
jadocs's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 2,190
Likes: 529
From: USA

Bikes: Ti, Mn Cr Ni Mo Nb, Al, C

Originally Posted by rm -rf
my rear quick release made the same noise. It only happened when pushing hard on the pedals. I was so sure it was the bottom bracket!

I cleaned the external cam on the quick release, wiped the frame where it clamped, and tightened the clamp a little more than i did originally. Fixed. I have to do this every couple of months.
this

and frankly, I'm surprised the LBS didn't check this first.
jadocs is offline  
Reply
Old 09-16-20 | 06:48 PM
  #13  
Junior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 132
Likes: 4
From: Ottawa, ON

Bikes: 1980 Mercian Pro steel, 2005 Specialized Roubaix, 2016 Norco Search, 2018 Ritchey Breakaway, 2019 Giant Defy

Had a persistent clicking on my Giant Defy when I was out of the saddle. Did all the usual things but it was still there. Put a drop of dry lube on the spoke crosses and voila, no more clicking. Might be your problem too.
canamdad is offline  
Reply
Old 09-16-20 | 08:30 PM
  #14  
GeneO's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,528
Likes: 152
From: midwest

Bikes: 2018 Roubaix Expert Di2, 2016 Diverge Expert X1

Only instances I have had of clicking are ungreased spindle at the bearing interface in the BB30 bottom bracket (binds then slightly slips, causing clicking), and crossing of spokes. The former was more of a light click. I took it to the local LBS a couple of times - it only got worse - before I Ifigured out they were not greasing the spindle when replacing it.

Most other noises are creaks.
GeneO is offline  
Reply
Old 09-17-20 | 07:23 AM
  #15  
Iride01's Avatar
Facts just confuse people
Titanium Club Membership
5 Anniversary
Community Builder
Community Influencer
 
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 19,317
Likes: 7,048
From: Mississippi

Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020

There are other threads here where the clicking noise started and was solved this year. Since this thread is four years old with no solution, it might be a poor choice for reading.
Iride01 is offline  
Reply
Old 09-17-20 | 10:07 AM
  #16  
Troul's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 8,285
Likes: 3,689
From: Mich

Bikes: RSO E-tire dropper fixie brifter

shoes laces, cable tip catching on something [shoe], jockey wheel.
__________________
-YMMV
Troul is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-23 | 11:18 AM
  #17  
gohabsgo's Avatar
Thread Starter
Newbie
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 40
Likes: 1
From: Kelowna, BC

Bikes: old Kona Cindercone, 2010 Devinci Silverstone SL3, 2015 Giant Trance, 2015 Wilier zero 9

Originally Posted by Nisiparoshu
I can hear clicking when I pedal (standing) up a hill.
4 year-old bike, new pedals, just changed the bb, still hearing the noise.

After he pushed the pedals really hard to see where the noise was coming, mechanic says the frame might have a fissure/small crack.
After this, the noise is even more audible. The crack might have expanded!?

I'm still not sure it's a fissure and am looking for a solution.

Any updates on yours?
Probably not relevant any longer but I recall that the thing that corrected the noise was a loose QR. After tightening that really good, the sounds disappeared.
gohabsgo is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-23 | 12:47 PM
  #18  
Banned
 
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,277
Likes: 390
Much easier to diagnose with the bike on a stand where you can turn the pedals by hand and feel any resistance or vibrations.

When replacing pedal bearings it is the only way I have been able to determine when the amount of tightness was barely enough as too tight shortens the life of the pedal bearing races.
Calsun is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-23 | 12:56 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 614
Likes: 37
From: NW Peloponnese, Greece
I had a creaky BB30 BB on my new Cannondale Synapse a few years ago.
I tried everything with the BB30 brgs. Removal, re-installation, and using a special sealant. I spent a lot of time with the BB, and even contacted Cannondale, but the problem continued.
When I removed the chainrings from the crank, cleaned, lightly sanded the matting surfaces, greased and re-installed them the creaking disappeared; I used loctite 202, and torqued them to specs.
Whenever the creaking re-appears which happens after a year or two I follow the same procedure to eliminate the creaking. This procedure is always successful.
yannisg is offline  
Reply
Old 06-08-23 | 01:30 PM
  #20  
ThermionicScott's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 22,676
Likes: 2,642
From: CID

Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)

Originally Posted by gohabsgo
Probably not relevant any longer but I recall that the thing that corrected the noise was a loose QR. After tightening that really good, the sounds disappeared.
I always enjoy a happy ending to these things.
ThermionicScott is offline  
Reply
Old 06-09-23 | 06:37 AM
  #21  
Newbie
 
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by gohabsgo
Probably not relevant any longer but I recall that the thing that corrected the noise was a loose QR. After tightening that really good, the sounds disappeared.
hey, thanks for the reply. I actually went at the time to another service and they cleaned the QRs really well and then the sound disappeared and haven't come back to this day.
Nisiparoshu is offline  
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
johzio
Bicycle Mechanics
4
05-05-15 11:38 PM
Ryan_M
Bicycle Mechanics
25
12-17-13 09:48 PM
niuoka
Bicycle Mechanics
9
10-12-13 07:21 PM
Solis91
Bicycle Mechanics
8
08-23-13 01:38 PM
wunderkind
Bicycle Mechanics
5
09-30-10 01:44 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.