fork replacement, need help
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fork replacement, need help
Hi
I am converting a Hardrock Sport (1999 or 2000) to drop bars since I am using it mostly for commuting/touring. I am thinking of swapping the stock Suntour SR-6200 fork with 80mm travel for some rigid fork like this one:
Nashbar Rigid 26" Mountain Bike Fork
It actually resembles Surly 1x1 fork, only it costs half as much. These forks are ``suspension corrected'' for 100mm travel. Will it make a big difference given that mine is 80mm travel? Assuming 1cm change in the fork length and a wheelbase of 1m, this would amount to roughly 0.5 degree angle, probably not a big deal. My concern is that the default (unsuspended) fork length has changed somewhat in the last 15 years. Thanks for any advice.
I understand that for this conversion I would need to convert to threadless and swap the headset/stem, no problem.
Edit: have done some homework, measured the Suntour fork axle to crown length as specified on Sheldon Brown's site: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/forklengths.htm
It is about 450mm. Does it mean I am looking for an unsuspended fork with 410-420 mm lengh?
Edit 2: Looking at the Surly fork specs here: https://surlybikes.com/uploads/downlo..._Fork_Info.pdf
Indeed, 1x1 80mm suspension corrected is 413 mm axle to crown. Other ones are much longer, and LHT fork is too short (376mm). The difference between 80mm and 100mm suspension corrected forks is 40mm, not 10mm as I expected (413 vs 453).
I am converting a Hardrock Sport (1999 or 2000) to drop bars since I am using it mostly for commuting/touring. I am thinking of swapping the stock Suntour SR-6200 fork with 80mm travel for some rigid fork like this one:
Nashbar Rigid 26" Mountain Bike Fork
It actually resembles Surly 1x1 fork, only it costs half as much. These forks are ``suspension corrected'' for 100mm travel. Will it make a big difference given that mine is 80mm travel? Assuming 1cm change in the fork length and a wheelbase of 1m, this would amount to roughly 0.5 degree angle, probably not a big deal. My concern is that the default (unsuspended) fork length has changed somewhat in the last 15 years. Thanks for any advice.
I understand that for this conversion I would need to convert to threadless and swap the headset/stem, no problem.
Edit: have done some homework, measured the Suntour fork axle to crown length as specified on Sheldon Brown's site: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/rinard/forklengths.htm
It is about 450mm. Does it mean I am looking for an unsuspended fork with 410-420 mm lengh?
Edit 2: Looking at the Surly fork specs here: https://surlybikes.com/uploads/downlo..._Fork_Info.pdf
Indeed, 1x1 80mm suspension corrected is 413 mm axle to crown. Other ones are much longer, and LHT fork is too short (376mm). The difference between 80mm and 100mm suspension corrected forks is 40mm, not 10mm as I expected (413 vs 453).
Last edited by csport; 11-20-16 at 04:38 AM.
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I think the 413 fork is actually 10mm too short. If you don't mind a slightly more forward leaning position with the same height adjustments of your handlebars, it's probably OK.
Something like a 425mm fork would be more correct in my opinion.
https://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&t=12&&q=fork_selector&
I actually swapped my susp. fork out with a rigid one the previous weekend and have been riding my "exotic" 465mm for a week now. I just hope it holds up since it seems a bit fragile with it's thin alu. tubes glued to a rather sleek crown. I am probably worrying too much.
Something like a 425mm fork would be more correct in my opinion.
https://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&t=12&&q=fork_selector&
I actually swapped my susp. fork out with a rigid one the previous weekend and have been riding my "exotic" 465mm for a week now. I just hope it holds up since it seems a bit fragile with it's thin alu. tubes glued to a rather sleek crown. I am probably worrying too much.
Last edited by Will Wheeler; 11-20-16 at 08:53 AM.
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Hi
I am converting a Hardrock Sport (1999 or 2000) to drop bars since I am using it mostly for commuting/touring. I am thinking of swapping the stock Suntour SR-6200 fork with 80mm travel for some rigid fork like this one:
Nashbar Rigid 26" Mountain Bike Fork
It actually resembles Surly 1x1 fork, only it costs half as much. These forks are ``suspension corrected'' for 100mm travel. Will it make a big difference given that mine is 80mm travel? Assuming 1cm change in the fork length and a wheelbase of 1m, this would amount to roughly 0.5 degree angle, probably not a big deal. My concern is that the default (unsuspended) fork length has changed somewhat in the last 15 years. Thanks for any advice.
I understand that for this conversion I would need to convert to threadless and swap the headset/stem, no problem.
Edit: have done some homework, measured the Suntour fork axle to crown length as specified on Sheldon Brown's site: Fork Lengths by Damon Rinard
It is about 450mm. Does it mean I am looking for an unsuspended fork with 410-420 mm lengh?
Edit 2: Looking at the Surly fork specs here: https://surlybikes.com/uploads/downlo..._Fork_Info.pdf
Indeed, 1x1 80mm suspension corrected is 413 mm axle to crown. Other ones are much longer, and LHT fork is too short (376mm). The difference between 80mm and 100mm suspension corrected forks is 40mm, not 10mm as I expected (413 vs 453).
I am converting a Hardrock Sport (1999 or 2000) to drop bars since I am using it mostly for commuting/touring. I am thinking of swapping the stock Suntour SR-6200 fork with 80mm travel for some rigid fork like this one:
Nashbar Rigid 26" Mountain Bike Fork
It actually resembles Surly 1x1 fork, only it costs half as much. These forks are ``suspension corrected'' for 100mm travel. Will it make a big difference given that mine is 80mm travel? Assuming 1cm change in the fork length and a wheelbase of 1m, this would amount to roughly 0.5 degree angle, probably not a big deal. My concern is that the default (unsuspended) fork length has changed somewhat in the last 15 years. Thanks for any advice.
I understand that for this conversion I would need to convert to threadless and swap the headset/stem, no problem.
Edit: have done some homework, measured the Suntour fork axle to crown length as specified on Sheldon Brown's site: Fork Lengths by Damon Rinard
It is about 450mm. Does it mean I am looking for an unsuspended fork with 410-420 mm lengh?
Edit 2: Looking at the Surly fork specs here: https://surlybikes.com/uploads/downlo..._Fork_Info.pdf
Indeed, 1x1 80mm suspension corrected is 413 mm axle to crown. Other ones are much longer, and LHT fork is too short (376mm). The difference between 80mm and 100mm suspension corrected forks is 40mm, not 10mm as I expected (413 vs 453).
If I were you I would keep looking and not consider the Nashbar at all.
Bruce
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I think the 413 fork is actually 10mm too short. If you don't mind a slightly more forward leaning position with the same height adjustments of your handlebars, it's probably OK.
Something like a 425mm fork would be more correct in my opinion.
https://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&t=12&&q=fork_selector&
I actually swapped my susp. fork out with a rigid one the previous weekend and have been riding my "exotic" 465mm for a week now. I just hope it holds up since it seems a bit fragile with it's thin alu. tubes glued to a rather sleek crown. I am probably worrying too much.
Something like a 425mm fork would be more correct in my opinion.
https://www.carboncycles.cc/?s=0&t=12&&q=fork_selector&
I actually swapped my susp. fork out with a rigid one the previous weekend and have been riding my "exotic" 465mm for a week now. I just hope it holds up since it seems a bit fragile with it's thin alu. tubes glued to a rather sleek crown. I am probably worrying too much.

Thanks! I am looking for a steel fork as I am a heavy rider and I want to use the bike for loaded touring. All I was able to find so far are the 413mm (Surly 1x1 80mm) and 453mm (Nashbar or Surly 1x1 100mm) forks. In between them are Kona Project Two (440mm) and a 430mm Origin 8 fork (actually a 29-er fork, will not work with the rim brakes on 26 inch wheels). Will keep looking.
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The best I have found so far are Surly 1x1 (413mm) and Kona P2 (440mm). May need to keep looking...
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The only other option I see is the Surly Big Dummy fork. It looks to be about the right size, and it's pretty cool how many mounts it has, making it appropriate for touring. The negatives being- It's heavy and probably pretty stiff, and $110.
If I were you and really was set on using the Hardrock. I would probably go with the Big Dummy fork and run wide tires to make up for the stiffness of the frame and fork.
Bruce
PS: You should post some pics of the bike! ( No specific reasons, I just like threads with pics
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If I were you and really was set on using the Hardrock. I would probably go with the Big Dummy fork and run wide tires to make up for the stiffness of the frame and fork.
Bruce
PS: You should post some pics of the bike! ( No specific reasons, I just like threads with pics
)
Bruce
PS: You should post some pics of the bike! ( No specific reasons, I just like threads with pics
)
For now it is OK for me. The tires here are Marathon Plus Tour 2.0 or 1.9 inches wide.
Even with the Big dummy fork this bike will be cheaper than the bare LHT frame
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csport, have you ever considered converting to disc brakes on the front? There will be a lot more options for you with all the 700 forks out there in all kinds of lengths and materials, and possibly cheaper than getting a 26" which seems to be pretty rare unfortunately.
Having a proper front brake is nice to have anyway...
Having a proper front brake is nice to have anyway...
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