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Old 07-02-17 | 09:52 PM
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Sturmey Archer 3 speed

I have an old 3 speed hub that looks exactly like the S-A 3 speed except it says "Schwinn Approved. Austria." Did a little reading about it on the net. It appears to be exactly the same as the S-A 3 spd. Wanted to put this on a mountain bike. The bike previously had a 21 speed derailler. However the axle is to short (146mm.) I have an S-A 63C (3spd/brake hub) with an axle of 152mm which will fit the bike frame. Don't want to use the 63C so does anyone know if I can use that axle from the 63C in the Schwinn hub? If not can I get a longer replacement axle for this hub?
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Old 07-03-17 | 12:45 AM
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Ive bought S-A spares from https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/.
If its a steel frame, consider cold-setting to the new width.
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So I've got the 5-3/4" axle. Apparently they do have a 6-1/4" axle as well (#hsa440.) This might work.
Isn't cold setting only widening the frame? As I mentioned the hub I want to use is to short, so I would need shorten the gap.

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Thanks for the info. I'm somewhat new to trying to build a wheel. I think I might end up putting the hub back together after servicing it. Then I'll try cold setting the frame. I can cold set reduce the gap (I was wrong.) 6mm shouldn't be to much...
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Originally Posted by jnl6666
So I've got the 5-3/4" axle. Apparently they do have a 6-1/4" axle as well (#hsa440.) This might work.
Isn't cold setting only widening the frame? As I mentioned the hub I want to use is to short, so I would need shorten the gap.
Cold setting is the bending process. You can go either way, as needed.
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I've bent steel frames inward to accommodate the shorter Sturmey-Archer axle. Worked just fine.

In case it's not clear from the above discussion, this only applies to steel -- cold setting an aluminum frame is discouraged.
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Old 07-05-17 | 04:27 AM
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I've bent steel frames inward to accommodate the shorter Sturmey-Archer axle. Worked just fine.

In case it's not clear from the above discussion, this only applies to steel -- cold setting an aluminum frame is discouraged.
Frame is an somewhat older Diamondback "Topanga." Not sure what the metal is, most likely steel, but I'll try taking a magnet to it. Might I ask how far you bent the frame to accommodate the S/A? I'm assuming about the same. Even a 6mm (1/4") to about 3/8" (I can't remember the 3/8" conversion from the top of my head right now, tired but it's not difficult) maximum should be enough, and the axle nuts will suck the hub in a bit more. I also never gave the spacing between the frame, I forgot it.
That's right 3/8th is 11mm.

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In my case it was an old ten speed frame, so I assume that I squeezed it down from 120 to 114 mm, not a lot. For a long time, I just let the nuts compress the frame, but I guessed it would be easier to remove and replace the wheel when it was the correct spacing, so I nudged it.
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