Ultrasonic Cleaners
#1
Ultrasonic Cleaners
I thought I’d seen an earlier thread regarding the use of ultrasonic cleaners for cleaning parts, but I couldn’t find it. I just bought a small unit (3 liters) and am wondering what the best cleaning solutions might be. So far, I’ve just used Dawn dishwashing detergent and am looking at trying Simple Green, but before I go that route, I figured I’d check here for and other suggestions. What experiences have you had with these cleaners? Thanks!
__________________
Some days, it's not even worth gnawing through the restraints.
Some days, it's not even worth gnawing through the restraints.
#3
Senior Member

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,327
Likes: 1,112
From: Roswell, GA
Bikes: '93 Trek 750, '92 Schwinn Crisscross, '93 Mongoose Alta
I put about an inch of water in my cleaner tank, then place a Pyrex beaker with cleaning solution into the water, which couples the ultrasonic energy efficiently into the cleaning solution. This eliminates having to clean out the tank between cleanings. I use Simple green, Dawn or odorless mineral spirits; the real stuff not the milky substitute. One could also use alcohol or really anything; Dawn and water work great on eyeglasses. It is kind of cool to turn on the agitation and see the gunk come out of the little crevices
#4
#5
FLIR Kitten to 0.05C
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 5,331
Likes: 409
From: Lincoln, Nebraska
Bikes: Roadie: Seven Axiom Race Ti w/Chorus 11s. CX/Adventure: Carver Gravel Grinder w/ Di2
I thought I’d seen an earlier thread regarding the use of ultrasonic cleaners for cleaning parts, but I couldn’t find it. I just bought a small unit (3 liters) and am wondering what the best cleaning solutions might be. So far, I’ve just used Dawn dishwashing detergent and am looking at trying Simple Green, but before I go that route, I figured I’d check here for and other suggestions. What experiences have you had with these cleaners? Thanks!
Otherwise a shot of degreaser will finish the job.
#7
Senior Member

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,327
Likes: 1,112
From: Roswell, GA
Bikes: '93 Trek 750, '92 Schwinn Crisscross, '93 Mongoose Alta
Thanks for the warning, I have been using Dawn solution on my co$tly Zeiss coated lenses for decades and have never had a problem. What cleaning solution did you use that caused the coating damage? I often hear an ultrasonic cleaner running at my eyeglass provider, but I will check with them at my next visit.
#8
Thanks for the warning, I have been using Dawn solution on my co$tly Zeiss coated lenses for decades and have never had a problem. What cleaning solution did you use that caused the coating damage? I often hear an ultrasonic cleaner running at my eyeglass provider, but I will check with them at my next visit.
Even more disgusting is that I was warned by a technician at my optometrists office about coated lenses, but I had already been doing it w/o problem. it was only after repeated cleanings that the coating loosened up. I'll bet the cleaner you heard running was cleaning frames w/o lenses installed.
#9
Really Old Senior Member


Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14,667
Likes: 1,904
From: Mid Willamette Valley, Orygun
Bikes: 87 RockHopper,2008 Specialized Globe. Both upgraded to 9 speeds. 2019 Giant Explore E+3
I put about an inch of water in my cleaner tank, then place a Pyrex beaker with cleaning solution into the water, which couples the ultrasonic energy efficiently into the cleaning solution. This eliminates having to clean out the tank between cleanings. I use Simple green, Dawn or odorless mineral spirits; the real stuff not the milky substitute. One could also use alcohol or really anything; Dawn and water work great on eyeglasses. It is kind of cool to turn on the agitation and see the gunk come out of the little crevices
Little "snap lid" containers that are common in Oregon are handy.
Little plastic "meat tubs" with a Dawn solution for eyeglasses & such.
A rinse under the faucet and air hose-
Check your screws!
#10
Senior Member

Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 8,327
Likes: 1,112
From: Roswell, GA
Bikes: '93 Trek 750, '92 Schwinn Crisscross, '93 Mongoose Alta
Simple Green, as stated earlier.
Even more disgusting is that I was warned by a technician at my optometrists office about coated lenses, but I had already been doing it w/o problem. it was only after repeated cleanings that the coating loosened up. I'll bet the cleaner you heard running was cleaning frames w/o lenses installed.
Even more disgusting is that I was warned by a technician at my optometrists office about coated lenses, but I had already been doing it w/o problem. it was only after repeated cleanings that the coating loosened up. I'll bet the cleaner you heard running was cleaning frames w/o lenses installed.
#12
I can't really see where an ultra sonic cleaner will cleaner any faster or efficient (talking about grease and grime) than just blasting away with a good solvent cleaner and a little rubbing.
#13
Well, that’s what I’m going to find out. Another bike hobbyist said they work well, and the bike shop I worked at used one. So, we’ll see.
__________________
Some days, it's not even worth gnawing through the restraints.
Some days, it's not even worth gnawing through the restraints.
#14
Really Old Senior Member


Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 14,667
Likes: 1,904
From: Mid Willamette Valley, Orygun
Bikes: 87 RockHopper,2008 Specialized Globe. Both upgraded to 9 speeds. 2019 Giant Explore E+3
#15
Senior Member


Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 3,706
Likes: 3,104
From: Niagara Region
Bikes: Panasonic PT-4500, Miele Touring and Batavus Pro
+1 for simplegreen but I also have used liquid laundry detergent with a dab of dishwasher soap. If you have a kettle handy - boiling water in the sonic cleaner means it works much much faster. Just remember to oil any moving parts after cleaning.
Also, my go to for hand cleaner is laundry detergent which doesn't seem to dry out hands.
Also, my go to for hand cleaner is laundry detergent which doesn't seem to dry out hands.
#16
Junior Member
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 23
Likes: 20
Beware of Simple Green! I recommend finding another degreaser (there's tons of threads on all the things you can use here). Simple Green is an effective degreaser, but it's also corrosive. I've seen it eat the anti-rust coating off of two brand new chains after a single hot ultrasonic cleaner run.
Also worth mentioning: Simple Green is especially corrosive to aluminum and can eat away the nice anodized finish on your chainrings and high-end cassette. Be careful!
Also worth mentioning: Simple Green is especially corrosive to aluminum and can eat away the nice anodized finish on your chainrings and high-end cassette. Be careful!
#17
FLIR Kitten to 0.05C
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 5,331
Likes: 409
From: Lincoln, Nebraska
Bikes: Roadie: Seven Axiom Race Ti w/Chorus 11s. CX/Adventure: Carver Gravel Grinder w/ Di2
Lots of things I'd rather do for 10 or 15 minutes than scrub chains and spill solvent.
#18
elcraft

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 840
Likes: 120
From: Greater Boston
The use of ultrasonic cleaners in the jewelry industry is ubiquitous. The solutions used have three principal components; a detergent, a de-greasing agent, and a surfactant (wetting agent). Since the first two components are generally well known, I won't waste time explaining them. The Surfactant/ wetting agent (basically the same type of stuff as Jet-Dri that one puts into the dishwashing machine) causes the cleaner to "break" or not cling to the surface of the item, usually in the form of water drops, . Thus the elimination of water spotting on glassware....
On the rare occasions when we needed a substitute for the commercially available ultrasonic cleaning solution, we found the all-purpose cleaner "Top Job" pretty effective. I suspect any cleaner containing these three components will work sufficiently well, as long as the de-greaser component is adequate for the grease present- jewelry usually isn't lathered in grease or oil; so the degreasing component isn't as proportionally high.
The heating of the solution is usually important to speed up the effectiveness of the cleaning process.
Depending on the strength of the transducers in the ultrasonic unit, there might be slight "etching" effect on some of the aluminum alloys when subjected to both heated solution and the caustic formulas. Caveat Emptor! So if you are cleaning alloy brake calipers or ungreased aluminum parts, you might want to do so with the heat turned off. Any thing greasy or oily, though, the heated solution is fabulous; especially cassettes, freewheel, and Chains!
On the rare occasions when we needed a substitute for the commercially available ultrasonic cleaning solution, we found the all-purpose cleaner "Top Job" pretty effective. I suspect any cleaner containing these three components will work sufficiently well, as long as the de-greaser component is adequate for the grease present- jewelry usually isn't lathered in grease or oil; so the degreasing component isn't as proportionally high.
The heating of the solution is usually important to speed up the effectiveness of the cleaning process.
Depending on the strength of the transducers in the ultrasonic unit, there might be slight "etching" effect on some of the aluminum alloys when subjected to both heated solution and the caustic formulas. Caveat Emptor! So if you are cleaning alloy brake calipers or ungreased aluminum parts, you might want to do so with the heat turned off. Any thing greasy or oily, though, the heated solution is fabulous; especially cassettes, freewheel, and Chains!
#21
“We don’t need no badges”
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 2,609
Likes: 1,630
From: SF Bay Area
Bikes: 1981 Holdsworth Special, 1993 C-dale MT3000 & 1996 F700CAD3, 2018 & 2019 Cervelo R3’s & 2022 R5, JustGo Runt, Ridley Oval, Kickr Bike 8-)
I use a cheap Harbor Freight tank and Simple Green. For small items I place the item in a ziplock bag with dilute simple green, fill the the tank with warm water and place the bag in the water.
Same idea as the use of the glass beaker, I just don't have any. I did consider a water glass, then I considered staying married!
Barry
Same idea as the use of the glass beaker, I just don't have any. I did consider a water glass, then I considered staying married!
Barry
#23
Generally bewildered

Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 3,038
Likes: 344
From: Eastern PA, USA
Bikes: 2014 Trek Domane 6.9, 1999 LeMond Zurich, 1978 Schwinn Superior
I put about an inch of water in my cleaner tank, then place a Pyrex beaker with cleaning solution into the water, which couples the ultrasonic energy efficiently into the cleaning solution. This eliminates having to clean out the tank between cleanings. I use Simple green, Dawn or odorless mineral spirits; the real stuff not the milky substitute. One could also use alcohol or really anything; Dawn and water work great on eyeglasses. It is kind of cool to turn on the agitation and see the gunk come out of the little crevices
Isn't one reason for the U/S cleaner to eliminate the need for flammable solvents?
#24
#25
Senior Member

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 2,977
Likes: 1,849
From: Long Island, NY
Bikes: Trek 800 x 2, Schwinn Heavy Duti, Schwinn Traveler, Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, Schwinn Continental, Cannondale M400 and Lambert, Schwinn Super Sport
I also use Simple Green, but agree with morelowgears that it will affect aluminum. It will leave a dull finish on aluminum, so be aware.
For me, some of my stuff was so dirty that that it didn't matter and I was able to get the finish back on the aluminum with fine sandpaper and then Scotchbrite.
You could degrease with a mechanical action like scrubbing with a brush. The advantage of the ultrasonic is that you put your parts in and in an hour come back and they are done. No effort required.
You may also want to check out Oz Cycling YouTube video where he compares chain cleaning methods. The ultrasonic didn't win.
For me, some of my stuff was so dirty that that it didn't matter and I was able to get the finish back on the aluminum with fine sandpaper and then Scotchbrite.
You could degrease with a mechanical action like scrubbing with a brush. The advantage of the ultrasonic is that you put your parts in and in an hour come back and they are done. No effort required.
You may also want to check out Oz Cycling YouTube video where he compares chain cleaning methods. The ultrasonic didn't win.





