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Old 04-06-20 | 06:55 AM
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I am currently building a gravel bike from a road bike, however, the rear frame is so narrow, I dont think I can run over a 28 tire.
So, now I am considering switching over to a used frame of some sort with a wider space between the rear triangles. Something decent, not too heavy, prefer steel, old is fine as long as I can run a wider tire. 35 at least, but maybe up to 45 width. Thanks
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Not sure of any question here. Lots of bikes can fit wider tires, you just have to look for them. This is a type of detail/spec that might not be well described in an on line ad though. Do you have a recycle shop near you to see stuff in person? Does your area have a Craig's List to use as a source? Don't forget about the unmentioned brakes and their contribution to max tire size compatibility. Andy
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Old 04-06-20 | 08:47 AM
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Need a frame with a wider space between the rear triangles for 35-40- 45 tires.
Yes, I am considering the brakes.
I am sure there are plenty of frames out there.
But I live in the sticks and no bike shops around.

I will try my current setup with 700x28 tires and see if that will cut it.
If not I will be looking for something else.
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Surly Cross Check and Pacer frames are Cr-Mo steel and accept wider tires. If you find one used it should be quite reasonably priced.
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I would also prowl the net for consignment shops that post bikes. Bike shops may be rare but consignment shops seem to be all over. My fist bike was from a consignment store and I paid $65 for it. It was a fine steel bike but was too big for me.
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Originally Posted by tammons
I am currently building a gravel bike from a road bike, however, the rear frame is so narrow, I dont think I can run over a 28 tire.
So, now I am considering switching over to a used frame of some sort with a wider space between the rear triangles. Something decent, not too heavy, prefer steel, old is fine as long as I can run a wider tire. 35 at least, but maybe up to 45 width. Thanks
What's your budget?

Low budget - 80's/90's rigid MTB with cantilever brakes is a good starting point for a budget build and this type of bike can be found for $50 to $150 on CL. You can also find lots of older rigid MTB frame/forks on ebay. You'll be able to run large 26" tires on the original rims and the original gearing will be good for gravel - likely a triple crank with granny gears. Get your self a set of nice, plush 26" tires with file tread - no need for knobbies unless you're going off-road. Clean-up the brakes, add new pads, and replace all of the cables if nec. and you'll be fine.

From there you can convert to drop bars if you wish - original thumb/click shifters can be re-used with a little creativity - plenty of examples on the internet and this site - you'll need a stem that angles up to set the drop bars at a reasonable position. And, you'll need an inexpensive set of drop bar brakes levers that work with canti's - Tektro makes good, reasonably-priced stuff - you can mount the thumbies/click shifters on the handlebars near the stem - some improvisation required.

You can also do this type of conversion with a decent 'hybrid' bike - like a Trek MultiTrack. With this type of bike you'll get 700c rims and lots of width for bigger tires. Twist shifters will add a degree of difficulty if converting to drops.

However, when substantially modifying and older bike you can quickly spend 1/2 what it would cost for a brand new gravel bike with modern components.


Mid-budget ($500 to $750 for frame/fork) - all kinds of gravel frame options in this price range. But if you're buying all of the components to build it up you'll easily spend $1500 to $2000 when you're done - better to buy a complete new or used recent-vintage bike.


$900 and up - Starting around $900 you can get a very nice aluminum frame/fork bike with disc brakes, good drivetrain, etc. that will be pretty light as well (25#, or less). Spend a little more and you'll get a carbon fork and somewhat better components - cable-actuated hydraulic discs are pretty slick. Something like the Salsa Journeyman, Kona Rove, etc. Big tires running at 25 - 30 psi will take the harshness out of an aluminum frame if that concerns you.

https://salsacycles.com/bikes/journe...man_claris_650


$949



If you really want a steel frame the Breezer Radar series starts at $949 with a nice component list.

https://www.breezerbikes.com/bikes/a...r/radar-expert

$969


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Old 04-06-20 | 12:19 PM
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I was actually looking at an older rigid MTB frame just now.
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Originally Posted by tammons
I am currently building a gravel bike from a road bike, however, the rear frame is so narrow, I dont think I can run over a 28 tire.
So, now I am considering switching over to a used frame of some sort with a wider space between the rear triangles. Something decent, not too heavy, prefer steel, old is fine as long as I can run a wider tire. 35 at least, but maybe up to 45 width. Thanks
dude, tell us more about the frame.
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Old 04-07-20 | 10:53 AM
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dude, tell us more about the frame.
The narrow between the rear triangles frame is a Raleigh Competition GS frame.
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Old 04-07-20 | 11:54 AM
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Just bought a Trek 830 to rebuild into a gravel bike, and My Raleigh will be set up as a road bike.
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