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Old 06-26-20, 06:08 PM
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Nipple washers?

Question to the accomplished wheelbuilders:

What nipple washers or spoke washers do you prefer for road wheels?
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Old 06-27-20, 08:28 AM
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Never Used them and have had no problems.
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Old 06-27-20, 10:12 AM
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I'm not an accomplished wheel builder but since your question has been posted while w/o any useful reply, I'll make a suggestion. Clarify the situation you have that you think warrants the use of washers. A more specific question may get a response from someone with actual knowledge.
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I don't think nipple washers are rocket science. I'd just take my nipple to an Ace Hardware and find a SS washer that fits the nipple. One that will bend slightly to better fit the rim but not too much would be ideal.
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Old 06-27-20, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by davidad View Post
Never Used them and have had no problems.
There are rims without reinforcing around the nipple holes that will crack without the washers, guaranteed, especially some older rims fro the '70s. Mavic Open Sports are probably marginal. I build them from myself without but I am 150 pounds and generally kind to wheels. Velocity Aeros have lots of material there and can go no washer without issue.

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My thoughts here are to get rims, if we are talking aluminum rims, with double eyelets, then washers not needed. Just another little bit to drop on floor and be lost forever.
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Sorry, too many jokes !

I cant be trusted in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Barry2 View Post
Sorry, too many jokes !

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I for one was sorely disappointed when I clicked on this thread.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
There are rims without reinforcing around the nipple holes that will crack without the washers, guaranteed, especially some older rims fro the '70s. Mavic Open Sports are probably marginal. I build them from myself without but I am 150 pounds and generally kind to wheels. Velocity Aeros have lots of material there and can go no washer without issue.

Ben
I replaced the Open Pro with an Open Sport and haven't had problems. I have built wheels for some friends with the Sport and they have held up. One rider was about 250 lbs.
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Old 06-28-20, 12:29 PM
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I only fitted nipple washers (aluminum washers made for backing up Pop Rivets) when I built my Winter bikes wheels with
All Weather Sports (Fairbanks AK) Snow Cat rims, seeing them single wall & kind of thin (though wide) for my studded tire wheels..

here is an image I found where they did not..

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Define "road wheels" , mate..

Mean any wheels of non mountain bikes?

People have used little brass washers on the head end of spokes with steel flange hubs, since spoke J bends,
are now assuming aluminum hubs , with thicker flanges so the brass washer compensates for the thinner steel hub flanges..





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Old 06-29-20, 02:44 AM
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I've only used them on the rear wheel of a commuter bike with H+Son Archetype rims. Not exactly necessary but it helped to tighten up the wheel, I used Sapim HM nipple washers.
I ordered a set of Bofix nipple washers for a tandem wheel... but they don't fit through the hole. Not that a Ryde Andra 40 will really need them.
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Old 06-29-20, 06:08 AM
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Here's some info in a recent C&V thread. Spoke washers?
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Old 06-29-20, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
Here's some info in a recent C&V thread. Spoke washers?

This thread title is better...
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