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Old 07-02-20, 04:21 AM
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Shimano Hub Removal Tool -Early?

I have a 80-81ish Motobecane Grand Record. It has Shimano components. What hub removal tool will work? I read about an "early" Shimano. Would this be considered "early"? It has 9 splines and is about 1 1/4" (32mm) across. I'll provide any other pertinent info that I can.
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What model number is on the hub?
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What model number is on the hub?
I didn't see one, but where do I look?
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are you asking about the hub, or the freewheel?
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Do you have a LBS open near you? If you're doing a one time freewheel removal and if the freewheel is the 333 version (whose tool is no longer available other then used , maybe on EBay) Then I question the value of buying it. If your LBS has the tool the job should cost only a few $ if you brought in only the wheel.

But I will be interested in what is really being asked about. Andy
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Old 07-02-20, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by alcjphil View Post
are you asking about the hub, or the freewheel?
Ah, my mistake. The freewheel is what Iím removing. Iím replacing the rim and need to get the spokes out.
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Are you replacing the spokes as well? If not, no need to remove them
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Well that's a "duh"! No, no new spokes. Thank you!!
EDIT: For that matter, maybe I'll be able to do one spoke at a time, to make it easier to keep track. But, I'm reading Sheldon Brown's article on wheel building, very helpful.

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you need another identical rim then, if the spoke seat in the rim * is different diameter, you cannot re use same length of spokes.
* AKA ERD.. number..
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I'm still not sure what you are asking, but you have enough posts to post a picture which would be HELPFUL.
IF you are talking about a UniGlide FH, you need two chain whips.
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Yes, I have an identical rim.
Bill, I have my answer.
Thank you everyone.
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Originally Posted by 408mopar View Post
I have a 80-81ish Motobecane Grand Record. It has Shimano components. What hub removal tool will work? I read about an "early" Shimano. Would this be considered "early"? It has 9 splines and is about 1 1/4" (32mm) across. I'll provide any other pertinent info that I can.
I don't see that either the old style TL-FW20 splined freewheel tool or the later TL-FW30 tool match the dimensions or spline count you give. Early 80s was a transition period from freewheels to freehubs. I wonder if you might have one of the original Uniglide freehubs? A picture would be most helpful.
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JohnThompson I was thinking the same thing. Some Moto's came with a Uniglide cassette hub body and a 5 or 6 speed cogset which was held on by the last (14T) sprocket. In which case the OP would need 2 chain tools to hold the cassette sprockets.
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