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icemilkcoffee 01-28-21 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by cxwrench (Post 21899204)
If you start at the top the edges of the tape can get rolled up from your hands pushing down...common knowledge.

Pointed taken. But if you start at the bottom, don't you have to finish at the top with ugly electrical tape?
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f66fd60a6a.jpg

cxwrench 01-28-21 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee (Post 21899493)
Pointed taken. But if you start at the bottom, don't you have to finish at the top with ugly electrical tape?
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f66fd60a6a.jpg

You mean like 99.999% of all bikes in the world? Go look at 100 bikes and tell me how many are taped your way.

Sy Reene 01-28-21 04:10 PM

I only buy pretty electrical tape.

DaveSSS 01-28-21 04:22 PM

The provided bar end plugs won't work unless the tape is pushed in to the end, to reduce the ID. Obviously, that's what the manufacturer expects. Mine always come out looking tidy.

2cam16 01-28-21 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee (Post 21899493)
Pointed taken. But if you start at the bottom, don't you have to finish at the top with ugly electrical tape?
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f66fd60a6a.jpg

There's always self-fusing tape which is what I use. A little bit prettier. ;)

Cyclist0108 01-28-21 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by Unca_Sam (Post 21897436)
As always, follow the manufacturer's directions when installing. Doesn't Lizard Skins tape include a warning not to stretch their tape when installing? That would be your first clue.

OP's tape is EVA backed PU tape, and similar to Supacaz Sticky Kush tape. Stretching for install is advised. Calvin's advice here is to take a piece of tape before wrapping and pulling on it to see how much stretch it can take before installing, since cheaper EVA/cork tapes will tear before EVA/PU tapes will.

I did it with Trek/Bontrager $35 Velvetak bar tape. I emitted some foul verbiage, and then repaired it with some electrical tape, and suffered with it for about a year. i am about to replace it with $40 Lizard Skins. This reminds me not to repeat the mistake.

#IsuckAtBarTape

Unca_Sam 01-28-21 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by wgscott (Post 21900126)
I did it with Trek/Bontrager $35 Velvetak bar tape. I emitted some foul verbiage, and then repaired it with some electrical tape, and suffered with it for about a year. i am about to replace it with $40 Lizard Skins. This reminds me not to repeat the mistake.

#IsuckAtBarTape

Did what?

cxwrench 01-28-21 10:26 PM


Originally Posted by Unca_Sam (Post 21900129)
Did what?

We were just posting about it...over stretching the tape when putting it on.

Cyclist0108 01-28-21 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by Unca_Sam (Post 21900129)
Did what?

Stretched it until it went <<snap>>,


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d87723bf6.jpg


The Lizard skins tape says not to stretch it because it damages the surface and then it wears out really quickly.

Cyclist0108 01-28-21 10:33 PM

Having looked at my other thread, where I was complaining I couldn't wrap the bars, this more recent wrap is significantly worse.

cxwrench 01-28-21 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by wgscott (Post 21900135)
Stretched it until it went <<snap>>,


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d87723bf6.jpg


The Lizard skins tape says not to stretch it because it damages the surface and then it wears out really quickly.

It also breaks easier than most other tape. Ask me how I know.

Cyclist0108 01-28-21 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by cxwrench (Post 21900148)
It also breaks easier than most other tape. Ask me how I know.

I swear I wasn't even trying to stretch it particularly hard.

At least I had the luxury of being able to suck it up and put a piece of tape on it.

I think I now realize that, as with saddles, too much cushiness is not a good thing.

It also doesn't stay in place very well, but at least I can re-wrap it.

cjenrick 01-29-21 01:51 AM

finish that electrical tape off with some world champion tape.

this will add 1.257 mph to your average speed.

why? because every time you look at that cool tape you will think you are a world champion.

hurry, only 1 left! >

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3ea84187e8.png

ARider2 01-29-21 05:59 AM

When wrapping handlebars I keep a small metal clamp handy, like the one pictured below. Sometimes I use it to hold the tape in place if I am interrupted during the middle of doing the job. Whether it is to answer the phone, reach for the electrical tape, fetch the scissors or any other reason, this way I use the clamp to keep some pressure on the tape to keep it in place for the time I have to pause the job.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ca3ab95e4d.jpg

cxwrench 01-29-21 10:09 AM

^Always a good idea^ I do this in the shop for just those reasons, whenever I start taping a bar I grab a Park pin spanner to use as a clamp if I'm interrupted.

icemilkcoffee 01-29-21 12:28 PM

I use silicone bar tape. These have no adhesive backing and are totally reusable if you don't tape it down with electrical tape. That's why I wrap from the top down. That way I can do the whole job without the use of any electrical tape and I can undo it and redo it as many times as I want.

Sy Reene 01-29-21 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee (Post 21900817)
I use silicone bar tape. These have no adhesive backing and are totally reusable if you don't tape it down with electrical tape.

I'm curious, it's impossible to remove electrical tape from silicone bar tape? Otherwise the bar tape would be reusable going from bottom to top?

Unca_Sam 01-29-21 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Sy Reene (Post 21900999)
I'm curious, it's impossible to remove electrical tape from silicone bar tape? Otherwise the bar tape would be reusable going from bottom to top?

Honestly, the only silicone tape I'm aware of is self-fusing. I would expect that to go the same way shellacked cotton tape goes: cut off with a knife.

Sy Reene 01-29-21 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by Unca_Sam (Post 21901027)
Honestly, the only silicone tape I'm aware of is self-fusing. I would expect that to go the same way shellacked cotton tape goes: cut off with a knife.

Arundel Gecko comes to mind.
https://www.arundelbike.com/product/synth-gecko/

icemilkcoffee 01-29-21 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Unca_Sam (Post 21901027)
Honestly, the only silicone tape I'm aware of is self-fusing. I would expect that to go the same way shellacked cotton tape goes: cut off with a knife.

You are thinking of silicone finishing tape. That one sticks to itself and is basically impossible to pull apart again once you accidentally let it stick to itself. But silicone handlebar tape is not like that. It grips itself so it doesn't slip, but you can undo it and rewrap it as many times as you want.

cxwrench 01-29-21 04:12 PM

Why would you want to reuse bar tape?

Sy Reene 01-29-21 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by cxwrench (Post 21901125)
Why would you want to reuse bar tape?

Typically not worth it, but conceivably.. you wrap a bar and cable breaks the next week?

icemilkcoffee 01-29-21 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by cxwrench (Post 21901125)
Why would you want to reuse bar tape?

Well, maybe some guy on some forum tells you you've been wrapping your bar all wrong, and that 99.99% of other cyclists wrap theirs the other way around :D

Cyclist0108 01-30-21 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by cxwrench (Post 21901125)
Why would you want to reuse bar tape?

You snap one half.

It slips.

Oh, ...


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...76cb6a7b66.jpg

I'm trying to psych myself up for this.

davidad 01-30-21 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by cxwrench (Post 21896656)
I still don't see the need for any tape. I cut the taper across the tape so the 'finished' (non cut) edge is at the end of the bar, it looks way better this way. As soon as you start wrapping the tape holds itself, so no tape. Been doing it like this for over 20 years. I can't see how cutting the tape after wrapping looks good at all.

Carpet tape is double sided so it is under the bar tape out of sight.

'02 nrs 01-31-21 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by wgscott (Post 21902177)
You snap one half.

It slips.

Oh, ...


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...76cb6a7b66.jpg

I'm trying to psych myself up for this.

can't be more difficult than cloth tape-just prepare for about 3 times more time,very doable.

oneclick 01-31-21 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by 2cam16 (Post 21899708)
There's always self-fusing tape which is what I use. A little bit prettier. ;)

I put a short bit of tight inner-tube on the bar, folded double close to the stem, before wrapping. After it's done at the top the inner-tube bit gets unfolded over the free end to hold it. Works great, no sticky,

Cyclist0108 01-31-21 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by davidad (Post 21902207)
Carpet tape is double sided so it is under the bar tape out of sight.

You can also use electrical tape sticky-side up. The Park video suggests doing this on the drops.

cjenrick 01-31-21 11:35 PM

while we are on this tape thing, i would like to put in a plug to a product that another forum member mentioned in another thread,

i bought a set and they are killer!

might be just the thing for the heavier tapes.

https://domaincycling.com/collection...ebar-end-plugs

i use Velox old fashioned tape over some nylon lined 3/16" neoprene on the top surfaces of the bar, learned this from Spence Wolfe at Cupertino Bike Shop back in 68.

i put the nylon side up to resist rain.

Jeff Neese 02-01-21 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by wgscott (Post 21900135)
Stretched it until it went <<snap>>,

The Lizard skins tape says not to stretch it because it damages the surface and then it wears out really quickly.

Lizard Skins tape wears out quickly whether you stretch it or not.


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