Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

[Nexus 7 gear hub] Replace core assembly?

Search
Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

[Nexus 7 gear hub] Replace core assembly?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-28-23 | 06:28 AM
  #1  
Winfried's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,777
Likes: 142
From: Paris, France
[SOLVED] [Nexus 7 gear hub] Replace core assembly?

Hello,

Someone I know rides a bike with an old Shimano Nexus 7 gear hub with a coaster brake, possibly an SG-7C18.

We'd like to remove the coaster brake for a lever-actuated Roller Brake instead. Apparently, this requires replacing the assembly as the two cores are incompatible, ie. you can't install a "lever brake" on a Nexus that used a coaster brake.

To avoid building a new wheel, does someone know if that old hub is compatible with the latest Nexus 7 gear hub for lever brakes (SG-C3001-7R), so that all it'd take is swaping the core assembly and avoid building a new wheel?

Thank you.



---
Edit: It looks like the hubs are incompatible → build a new wheel with a new hub

"SG-7 series hubs went through several minor design changes, resulting in new model numbers and parts incompatibilities. The newer C3000-series hubs are significantly different from earlier ones, with pawls on the axle rather than the insides of the sun gears. […] Replacement parts availability is a concern, and so you may have to substitute an internal assembly from a different model. The internal mechanism of these hubs is complicated, and the usual repair is to replace it in its entirety. It can usually be replaced with a newer version as long as the hub is of the same basic type (with or without coaster brake) and in the same series."

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/nexus7.shtml

Last edited by Winfried; 04-03-23 at 01:13 AM.
Winfried is offline  
Reply
Old 03-28-23 | 03:55 PM
  #2  
Dan Burkhart's Avatar
Senior member
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 8,380
Likes: 915
From: Oakville Ontario
They are not in any way compatible. If you want a roller brake you need and entire new hub.
Dan Burkhart is offline  
Reply
Old 03-28-23 | 09:32 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
15 Anniversary
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2,972
Likes: 521
From: Elevation 666m Edmonton Canada

Bikes: 2013 Custom SA5w / Rohloff Tourster

Roller brakes are the stupidest thing ever invented. More drag than the Titanic. LOL.
GamblerGORD53 is offline  
Reply
Old 03-29-23 | 04:34 AM
  #4  
sweeks's Avatar
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
Community Builder
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,359
Likes: 1,105
From: Chicago area

Bikes: Airborne "Carpe Diem", Motobecane "Mirage", Trek 6000, Strida 2, Dahon "Helios XL", Dahon "Mu XL", Tern "Verge S11i"

Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
Roller brakes are the stupidest thing ever invented. More drag than the Titanic. LOL.
I went the roller brake route on my "winter" bike, which was requiring a rear rim change every couple of years. Nexus 8-speed hub.
As a rear brake, the roller is adequate, and I've had no issues with drag. And no rim replacements!


Roller brake replacement for V-brake eliminated rear rim wear.
sweeks is offline  
Reply
Old 04-03-23 | 01:12 AM
  #5  
Winfried's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,777
Likes: 142
From: Paris, France
Thanks for the infos.

Coaster brakes are very much useful on a handcycle, something I didn't mention.

The goal was actually to add a mid-drive, but it turns out that, unlike Bafang, a Tongsheng is available in a version that's coaster-brake-compatible, so the user won't need to replace the Nexus.
Winfried is offline  
Reply
Old 04-03-23 | 02:00 AM
  #6  
Full Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 369
Likes: 76
Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
Roller brakes are the stupidest thing ever invented. More drag than the Titanic. LOL.
Disagree. Very good for low maintainence. Not very good for performance.
ign1te is offline  
Reply
Old 04-03-23 | 02:04 AM
  #7  
Full Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 369
Likes: 76
Originally Posted by Winfried
Hello,

Someone I know rides a bike with an old Shimano Nexus 7 gear hub with a coaster brake, possibly an SG-7C18.

We'd like to remove the coaster brake for a lever-actuated Roller Brake instead. Apparently, this requires replacing the assembly as the two cores are incompatible, ie. you can't install a "lever brake" on a Nexus that used a coaster brake.

To avoid building a new wheel, does someone know if that old hub is compatible with the latest Nexus 7 gear hub for lever brakes (SG-C3001-7R), so that all it'd take is swaping the core assembly and avoid building a new wheel?

Thank you.



---
Edit: It looks like the hubs are incompatible → build a new wheel with a new hub

"SG-7 series hubs went through several minor design changes, resulting in new model numbers and parts incompatibilities. The newer C3000-series hubs are significantly different from earlier ones, with pawls on the axle rather than the insides of the sun gears. […] Replacement parts availability is a concern, and so you may have to substitute an internal assembly from a different model. The internal mechanism of these hubs is complicated, and the usual repair is to replace it in its entirety. It can usually be replaced with a newer version as long as the hub is of the same basic type (with or without coaster brake) and in the same series."

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/nexus7.shtml
The main thing is that the roller brake version has external splines on the hub body itself. These are needed for the roller brake to even function. A coaster hub does not have these splines and therefore no simple conversion is possible.
ign1te is offline  
Reply
Old 04-03-23 | 03:06 AM
  #8  
Winfried's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
10 Anniversary
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 2,777
Likes: 142
From: Paris, France
Originally Posted by ign1te
Disagree. Very good for low maintainence.
For that reason, they're very common in the Netherlands, and Germany.

Incidently, those countries have bike modal shares way higher than the US.
Winfried is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.