Find the flaw: Expert version
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Nexus 7 straight out of the hub shell. Nothing has been done to it besides removing it out of the shell. And no, "dirty grease" is not the answer.
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The grease obscures it some, but on the largest piece I see a chunk of metal missing near its left edge, facing the camera.
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if you're hungry, go make a sandwich... don't be chomping on hub parts!
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Never had one of these open but What's going on here.
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At midpoint there appears to be a dog-clutch, thin metal cylindrical part with axial tabs, that appears to perhaps be missing a section between tabs. Hard to see with all the grease.
Just to the right of that, looks like a ring of some sort with a good chunk of it missing.
Also the cylindrical section to the left of the right caged bearing, someone had mentioned a chunk lower in the picture, but the same part high in the picture also looks chewed. Inside of that, the planet gears look not fully engaged, partly slid out axially.
Just to the right of that, looks like a ring of some sort with a good chunk of it missing.
Also the cylindrical section to the left of the right caged bearing, someone had mentioned a chunk lower in the picture, but the same part high in the picture also looks chewed. Inside of that, the planet gears look not fully engaged, partly slid out axially.
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At midpoint there appears to be a dog-clutch, thin metal cylindrical part with axial tabs, that appears to perhaps be missing a section between tabs. Hard to see with all the grease.
Just to the right of that, looks like a ring of some sort with a good chunk of it missing.
Also the cylindrical section to the left of the right caged bearing, someone had mentioned a chunk lower in the picture, but the same part high in the picture also looks chewed. Inside of that, the planet gears look not fully engaged, partly slid out axially.
Just to the right of that, looks like a ring of some sort with a good chunk of it missing.
Also the cylindrical section to the left of the right caged bearing, someone had mentioned a chunk lower in the picture, but the same part high in the picture also looks chewed. Inside of that, the planet gears look not fully engaged, partly slid out axially.
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Not having a clue how that hub is constructed, I'm gonna take a first stab at it and say that the (pic) left end wheel bearing disintegrated or the cone loosened, and that's what holds the whole assembly together axially, or simply a locknut on the axle that does the same and rotates with the whole assembly.
Wow, I'm seeing more and more damage, huge chunks taken out of carriers or plates.
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Retaining ring that keeps the rods in their place has failed. Rods are protruding past their normal position (picture). This caused gear mis-alignment which led to further damage.
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Is the retaining ring a big wire ring, or a flat plate like a giant c-clip? Is it fixed or free to rotate with respect to the pins? I'm just wondering about why it failed, if under any stress, or just fixed with respect to the pins and there was fretting wear at each contact point?
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Exactly what is the flaw in using an internally geared hub? Is it because you don't understand their utility or because they did something to you or what? Yes there are drawbacks to an IGH system just like there are drawbacks to using a derailleur and drawbacks to a fixed gear or single speed application. However in many cases the IGH can be quite superior if done right for a wide variety of riders. It won't be ideal for someone racing or who needs really quick gear changes but that is a small number of the cycling population. Also consider that Sturmey-Archer is still producing their hubs with not a ton of change for way longer than any derailleur has been around is pretty decent testament to their staying power. Granted yes S-A did get bought out by SunRace but I can still get a shifter that can work with an old 3 speed hub from the 50s is pretty neat. Now I am not saying I am a S-A fan just pointing out the longevity of their product compared to say a Dura-Ace derailleur which will change every 3-6 years or so and not always be backwards compatible.
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Is the retaining ring a big wire ring, or a flat plate like a giant c-clip? Is it fixed or free to rotate with respect to the pins? I'm just wondering about why it failed, if under any stress, or just fixed with respect to the pins and there was fretting wear at each contact point?
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/hub-spar...-1110/?geoc=SE
Came out of its groove. Could be error during assembly or material failure. These rings are not under load.
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Looks like this.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/hub-spar...-1110/?geoc=SE
Came out of its groove. Could be error during assembly or material failure. These rings are not under load.
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/hub-spar...-1110/?geoc=SE
Came out of its groove. Could be error during assembly or material failure. These rings are not under load.
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Soooo, somebody rode that until the dirt screwed up the shifting and that broke stuff.... and now you wonder why?? LOL
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So, the ancient Sumerian Wankel rotary engine, brought to earth by ancient aliens? That's all over the internet...
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