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Old 05-24-24, 10:19 AM
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Has anyone besides me used Fluid Film for lubricating chains and other bike parts? One of the uses it is recommended for is motorcycle chains so i saw no reason not to use it on my bike chains and any other moving parts. It's a relatively non toxic lube, I assume, since it is primarily lanolin. It must have some sort of a carrying agent but I think it is proprietary and not listed on the can. I keep a small tupperware containe of it with a solder brush in my shop and in the garage and almost anytime i need a lubricant, I reach for it.
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No I would generally just use a bicycle chain lube it is designed for the purpose and not super expensive. I guess if I desperate and had only some other thing and no bicycle lubricant but that hasn't been a problem for me. The taking of the lanolin from sheep is toxic to the sheep, they would prefer to be left alone just as you or I would.
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I use bike oil on my bike.
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I can't imagine how shearing could be toxic.


"The taking of the lanolin from sheep is toxic to the sheep"
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Yes, I use it on car door hinges and bicycle chains. My experience is that on a bicycle chain it creates a mess, but it does work. On the car door hinges it works well, but is has a short life and needs to be reapplied more often than good ol' grease. I have used it on one of our interior door hinge pins, and it lasts a long time, as in 2 years before reapplication.
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Originally Posted by larrypac
I can't imagine how shearing could be toxic.


"The taking of the lanolin from sheep is toxic to the sheep"
It was a typical contribution.

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"No, the process of extracting lanolin from sheep after shearing does not harm the sheep. Lanolin is an oil secreted from a sheep's skin that's trapped in its wool, and it helps protect the sheep from extreme environments. To extract lanolin, the wool is washed in hot water and detergent to remove dirt and grease, then the lanolin is separated from other chemicals and debris using a centrifuge machine."
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It's also water soluble, meaning, it washes away eventually with plenty of water or with simple dish soap.

But hey, if they say what it can do, then surely it does what they say!
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I use it on my snow plow and snow blower
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Can't give an informed answer on Fluid Film specifically but motorcycle chains and bike chains are two very different animals. Motorcycle O-Ring chains (which are sold on almost all motorcycles these days) have an O-Ring between the sideplates and a long wearing grease is trapped between them inside the rollers/pins. The chain is not designed to flex sideways or allow anything to get passed the O-Rings. When the grease wears out from regular use and heat the chain is done for, no lube superficially applied can get past the O-Rings. Applying lube on this type of chain is for outer roller contact and some rust prevention only. No lube on the outer rollers creates lots of heat which prematurely breaks down the inner grease and motorcycle lube is usually designed to not fling off at high speeds or break down with heat but doesn't need to be penetrating. Bike chains need a penetrating type lube (which most bike specific lubes are including waxes) and don't need heat protection. You can use almost anything to lube a bike chain as long as it can penetrate and has lubrication qualities.
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Oh, how the art of humor is so lost in the age of the Internet.
Kids these days...

...Are still funny. Old farts like us who treat text like speech tend to have a bit of trouble with it, though
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
It was a typical contribution.

Quick search result:

"No, the process of extracting lanolin from sheep after shearing does not harm the sheep. Lanolin is an oil secreted from a sheep's skin that's trapped in its wool, and it helps protect the sheep from extreme environments. To extract lanolin, the wool is washed in hot water and detergent to remove dirt and grease, then the lanolin is separated from other chemicals and debris using a centrifuge machine."
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I can't imagine how shearing could be toxic.


"The taking of the lanolin from sheep is toxic to the sheep"
I mean harmful to sheep as the shearing can very much harm sheep and does frequently. I know the companies that use wool would love to paint a much different picture that is the case for any industry wanting to use products taken from others or using labor from others that is not good. Our child labor is really good for the children because it teaches them...

However getting to deep into the topic will lead astray but yes caring for others not a bad thing.

Just use a standard chain lube.
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Originally Posted by Kimmo
Kids these days...

...Are still funny. Old farts like us who treat text like speech tend to have a bit of trouble with it, though
Well, there is the odd chance that he is serious. In which case, that in and of itself is pretty funny.
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I've used it on the underside of my truck and as an alternative to Framesaver in steel frames. I think it would be too messy for chains.
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I mean harmful to sheep as the shearing can very much harm sheep and does frequently.
Iím irreparably harmed every time I get a haircut or shave.
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FF, mixed with a small amount of Ballistol (about 4:1), yes.

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Originally Posted by streetsurfer
FF, mixed with a small amount of Ballistol (about 4:1), yes.
Never heard of ballistol but seems to be a brand, not a specific product.
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Ballistol is used a lot in the black powder hobby. Pretty good oil if you donít mind the smell.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
I mean harmful to sheep as the shearing can very much harm sheep and does frequently. I know the companies that use wool would love to paint a much different picture that is the case for any industry wanting to use products taken from others or using labor from others that is not good. Our child labor is really good for the children because it teaches them...

However getting to deep into the topic will lead astray but yes caring for others not a bad thing.

Just use a standard chain lube.
I think I understand your perspective, and it's consistent with your username. Personally though I much prefer the *idea* of using a renewable product that is gathered from sheared wool than using something formulated from petroleum byproducts as most lubes are, with the associated environmental problems and regular human rights violations which are extensive throughout that industry.

Having said that, I use the Bananaslip Tungsten All-weather lube with unknown (to me) ingredients and unknown problematic processes / impact. It works well, and my consumption is small enough that I consider it an acceptable impact.
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Originally Posted by retswerb
I think I understand your perspective, and it's consistent with your username. Personally though I much prefer the *idea* of using a renewable product that is gathered from sheared wool than using something formulated from petroleum byproducts as most lubes are, with the associated environmental problems and regular human rights violations which are extensive throughout that industry.

Having said that, I use the Bananaslip Tungsten All-weather lube with unknown (to me) ingredients and unknown problematic processes / impact. It works well, and my consumption is small enough that I consider it an acceptable impact.
I see that to a point but there are other ways to lube. Renewable is good but avoiding harm to others is ideal.

I am curious to look into that BananaSlip.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
I mean harmful to sheep as the shearing can very much harm sheep and does frequently. I know the companies that use wool would love to paint a much different picture that is the case for any industry wanting to use products taken from others or using labor from others that is not good. Our child labor is really good for the children because it teaches them...

However getting to deep into the topic will lead astray but yes caring for others not a bad thing.

Just use a standard chain lube.
Domestic sheep are far different from wild sheep. For good or bad the sheep that we use for wool have been bred over some hundreds of years until they now continue to grow their coats until they become overgrown and disabled if not shorn at regular intervals. I'm sure the sheep are nicked a little here and there but as for any sort of harm that reduces their life spans I feel like you're the one that is mis-informed.

As for Fluid Film I use it for a few things. It's particularly nice on metal that sees a lot of skin contact since the FF seems to last longer before being wiped away. But if it is more water soluble than other options it would not be a good idea for rain conditions riding. Or rather just needs more frequent use.
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Originally Posted by larrypac
I can't imagine how shearing could be toxic.


"The taking of the lanolin from sheep is toxic to the sheep"
"If you are going to shag a sheep, do it at the edge of a cliff"...
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Originally Posted by BCRider
Domestic sheep are far different from wild sheep. For good or bad the sheep that we use for wool have been bred over some hundreds of years until they now continue to grow their coats until they become overgrown and disabled if not shorn at regular intervals. I'm sure the sheep are nicked a little here and there but as for any sort of harm that reduces their life spans I feel like you're the one that is mis-informed.

As for Fluid Film I use it for a few things. It's particularly nice on metal that sees a lot of skin contact since the FF seems to last longer before being wiped away. But if it is more water soluble than other options it would not be a good idea for rain conditions riding. Or rather just needs more frequent use.
It is certainly bad. Using someone without their active and positive consent is always wrong in every case. Also breeding someone just to exploit them is also always wrong. If you don't want to be in that situation you shouldn't wish it on anyone else for any reason.
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It is certainly bad. Using someone without their active and positive consent is always wrong in every case. Also breeding someone just to exploit them is also always wrong. If you don't want to be in that situation you shouldn't wish it on anyone else for any reason.
FYI: Sheep arenít people. Using human pronouns for animals is just plain weird.

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Originally Posted by smd4
FYI: Sheep arenít people. Using human pronouns for animals is just plain weird.
They are more people than some actual people. I don't believe in calling someone who is a living being an it or a thing which is are words for inanimate object. Animals should get personhood so they can get respect and have a right to their lives as we want for ourselves.
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