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Old 06-05-24 | 03:14 PM
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Brifter Cabling. End Cap at Brifter End or No?

Brain dead today. Can't remember, do you add a cable end cap to the end that goes into brifter?
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Depends on the shifter; my experience has been that it is best to search for the appropriate installation guide pdf and work off that.
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try it, see if one fits?

same for brake noodles on v-brake installs, etc.
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If you are using common 4mm housing, then it will generally require an end cap. In addition to supporting the end and outside of the housing, the end cap will center the housing and keep it aligned properly.

If the housing end sits at an angle, the supporting strand can migrate into the opening for the inner cable (which is usually much larger than standard shifter cable). See the effect below.


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If you are using common 4mm housing, then it will generally require an end cap. In addition to supporting the end and outside of the housing, the end cap will center the housing and keep it aligned properly.

If the housing end sits at an angle, the supporting strand can migrate into the opening for the inner cable (which is usually much larger than standard shifter cable). See the effect below.


Yes, figured it out. Brifter end is OK, the other points need the caps. I have both plastic and stainless caps for appropriate cables. So far so good.
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Brain dead today. Can't remember, do you add a cable end cap to the end that goes into brifter?
Are you talking about the cable or the housing?
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Originally Posted by KCT1986


That's a ferrule.
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Are you talking about the cable or the housing?
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Originally Posted by oldbobcat
That's a ferrule.
As stated, the pic is to show the effect of misalignment. Can happen anywhere if the housing is not aligned.
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Originally Posted by KCT1986
If you are using common 4mm housing, then it will generally require an end cap. In addition to supporting the end and outside of the housing, the end cap will center the housing and keep it aligned properly.

If the housing end sits at an angle, the supporting strand can migrate into the opening for the inner cable (which is usually much larger than standard shifter cable). See the effect below.


In this picture you have a 4mm shifter housing going into a ferrule for 5mm (brake) housing. Of course it works poorly.


In reference to other advice offered here, don't try sticking a ferrule in a Shimano brifter brake channel. It will wedge in there and be really difficult to get out. If the brake gets used that way it can crack the brake lever body.

Shimano road brakes don't use ferrules at the caliper or lever. I don't know of any index shift system that doesn't use ferrules at both ends.
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Originally Posted by Kontact
In this picture you have a 4mm shifter housing going into a ferrule for 5mm (brake) housing. Of course it works poorly.


In reference to other advice offered here, don't try sticking a ferrule in a Shimano brifter brake channel. It will wedge in there and be really difficult to get out. If the brake gets used that way it can crack the brake lever body.

Shimano road brakes don't use ferrules at the caliper or lever. I don't know of any index shift system that doesn't use ferrules at both ends.
Correct. I just cleaned up the housing end and up it went. I have both 4 and 5 mm housing ferrules, so good to go there. The worst part is that stupid little hook end of metal from the cut I have to grind off before I use it. Every time I do this one bites me and I bleed all over. Geez.... But so far so good.

Last time I did this I used silicone spray on the cable. Anything new or different in the last few years?
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Originally Posted by Kontact
In this picture you have a 4mm shifter housing going into a ferrule for 5mm (brake) housing. Of course it works poorly.

As stated, it's just to show the effect of a misalignment. If the brifter is designed to take a housing end cap, it would be even worst since the hole would be 6+mm.
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Originally Posted by KCT1986
As stated, it's just to show the effect of a misalignment. If the brifter is designed to take a housing end cap, it would be even worst since the hole would be 6+mm.
Hard to misalign a correct size ferrule.
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Originally Posted by Kontact
Hard to misalign a correct size ferrule.
The pic is just someone else's that was saved a while ago. Just showing it here to demonstrate what can happen.
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Are we talking about shifter or brake cables? If shifter, always use ferrules at both ends.
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