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Old 03-20-25 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Arthur Peabody
We have the same site. The $23.80 doesn't come up if you don't add a link. Who pays $20 when they can get it for $5? I suspect they have it backwards: they want $23.80 for the base chain, $5 for additions, but I get all the way to checkout.
I wonder if I'm missing something.
Why not just contact them to find out from the place that's actually selling the chains.
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Old 03-20-25 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Arthur Peabody
A 118-link chain costs $5; a 120-link chain costs $29 - does this make sense? The site also says that you have to choose an even number but allows you to choose an odd number. They look like the same chain to me.


They have an 11-speed chain for $5: https://kmcchain.us/collections/11-s...-custom-length It's 138 links. A 140-link chain costs $75 - does this makes sense to you?


I can't. If I buy 5 shipping drops to $4/each.

It's an easy decision if it's what it appears to be to me. I'd have thought they could afford to get it right. I asked because I wondered if I was missing something.


My decision is how much it costs me, not on what eBay makes. They have to make something to stay in business. They make less on mis-identified stuff. Most of the fakes and knockoffs are honestly advertised; I've bought some and been happy with them. Issuers of travelers' checks made money on people not redeeming them. Gift card issuers count on the same.
It doesn't have to make sense. It's KMC's site. So you can at least trust that they aren't going to take your money and run. Possibly the chains are not the same in every way. slightly different steel that is different in cost. Or possibly their website has a flaw that they haven't fixed. Or maybe the chain doesn't cost that much and it's the sizing and the pretty plastic boxes they put it in that adds to the cost. Maybe the custom sized chain just comes wrapped in plain paper saving them packaging costs.

If you'd only order one then you'd be able to tell us if it turned out to be that they quashed the deal later in the checkout process by increasing the price. Either way, I'm certain they will send you a chain.

Perhaps grumpus is correct and that is a surcharge. But obviously none of us will know for sure if you or another doesn't try.

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Old 03-20-25 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Arthur Peabody
My decision is how much it costs me, not on what eBay makes. They have to make something to stay in business. They make less on mis-identified stuff. Most of the fakes and knockoffs are honestly advertised; I've bought some and been happy with them. Issuers of travelers' checks made money on people not redeeming them. Gift card issuers count on the same.
Your decision is to buy random parts because they took a photo from KMC. It is not just mis-idenitified it is actual fake, knock-off stuff that is not honest in anyway. How is stealing someone's designs honest? It is obviously designed to be poorly advertised so you think it is real legit product that is not honesty.

Stealing is wrong and buying stolen ideas and goods is wrong and they didn't need to rob a KMC truck they just stole their designs and are trying to profit off of them. It is one thing to buy a product from an authorized dealer on sale but just buying knockoffs and fakes to pretend to save a buck is a whole 'nuther and it is not good for anyone except the owner of the factory making those fake products and the people who sell them. The people who make them don't see any of that and you get screwed.
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Old 03-21-25 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by grumpus
I think that anyone ordering just the custom length surcharge without also ordering a chain to be customised will receive nothing in the mail. 😀
The word surcharge appears nowhere on the page.

Originally Posted by Crankycrank
Why not just contact them to find out from the place that's actually selling the chains.
Because I think it's a mistake, want to take advantage of it.

Originally Posted by Iride01
It doesn't have to make sense. It's KMC's site.
I didn't say it had to. I imagine that KMC wants to sell chains, that they won't for long if they misprice or misadvertise. If it makes no sense they damage their own business.

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Your decision is to buy random parts because they took a photo from KMC... is not honest
I didn't. I stopped by an LBS yesterday. They sell X8s for $20, the same price KMC sells them for on-line. Thus LBS pays less. An eBay vendor could buy a truckload legitimately and sell them more cheaply. Not everything cheap on eBay is a fake. All the chains I've bought there, Shimano and KMC, have been identical with the official stuff and worked as well.

There are even-cheaper chains from makers I don't recognize.
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Old 03-21-25 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Arthur Peabody
I didn't. I stopped by an LBS yesterday. They sell X8s for $20, the same price KMC sells them for on-line. Thus LBS pays less. An eBay vendor could buy a truckload legitimately and sell them more cheaply. Not everything cheap on eBay is a fake. All the chains I've bought there, Shimano and KMC, have been identical with the official stuff and worked as well.

There are even-cheaper chains from makers I don't recognize.
Good good that is excellent news! Someone on ebay could buy a bunch but if KMC has a deal like Shimano they don't sell on third party sites so not really legit at that point. However the fakes these days have gotten really good so the official stuff is easily reproduced. People question why make a fake but in the end it will sell it is such a random thing people won't think about it and just think it is legit "why would anyone fake an 8 speed chain?" and then they are making a fake chain and making money off of it cutting out KMC and all the KMC dealers and hurting the customers who don't know.
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