In the stand vs under load
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I used a wet toothbrush to clean dirt off the back of the cage, and the stamp says "RD-M786 VIA".
Looking closer at the double-up, it's surprising to me that shifting even works given the double-up means pushing the RD double-thickness away from the frame.
But I have already ordered a replacement 11-42, and if that gives me 10 good speeds of shifting like I have 6 right now, I'll be happy.
Looking closer at the double-up, it's surprising to me that shifting even works given the double-up means pushing the RD double-thickness away from the frame.
But I have already ordered a replacement 11-42, and if that gives me 10 good speeds of shifting like I have 6 right now, I'll be happy.
Yes, mounting with the original B-link puts the RD in a quite different position. Older style RDs did actuate differently in different parts of the 'extension range', don't know for sure if 'Shadow' RDs work the same.

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Replace the cassette, you dumb cheap bastard. 😉
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FWIW, I also have a 1x ten speed with an 11-42 cassette with a Shimano Deore Shadow RD, although mine is labeled RD-M592. It was originally servicing an 11-36 cassette, which I replaced when I began riding in the mountains. Although Shimano rates the derailleur only for up to 36 teeth, I had zero problems adjusting it to accommodate the 11-42, and I didn't need or use a Wolf Tooth Link. I simply adjusted the B-screw and the indexing, and it's been excellent. I question whether you really need such a link when you install the new cassette. An unneeded link could add unneeded flex, but I'm not an expert. Full disclosure: my ride is an ICE recumbent trike, but it's a straight forward mtb cassette, derailleur and bar end shifter. Please report your installation results.
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From the original thread where I posted about buying this used bike, here's a photo of how the drivetrain looked as I received it

NOTE pre-goatlink in the back, smaller cassette, and double in the front
Not the clearest picture, but you can see 2 'knuckles' instead of the now 3

NOTE pre-goatlink in the back, smaller cassette, and double in the front
Not the clearest picture, but you can see 2 'knuckles' instead of the now 3
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That is removed and replaced with the GL when trying to extend the range, (if the model is compatible). See the Wolf Tooth instructions.
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hmmm I guess I didn't follow the wolf tooth instructions. I'm hesitant to fix what aint broke, but if the swapped in new cassette doesn't shift great, it's good to know I've got an option I can try
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Found the instructions.
I think I will go ahead and remove the B-link -- I guess the WTGL is just that few mm longer as a replacement B-link that it makes a difference?
I think I will go ahead and remove the B-link -- I guess the WTGL is just that few mm longer as a replacement B-link that it makes a difference?
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Found the instructions.
I think I will go ahead and remove the B-link -- I guess the WTGL is just that few mm longer as a replacement B-link that it makes a difference?
I think I will go ahead and remove the B-link -- I guess the WTGL is just that few mm longer as a replacement B-link that it makes a difference?
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I thought you were going to notice that my chain was incorrectly threaded from the top jockey wheel to the bottom one. I noticed it while looking at the picture last night. I could have sworn I did it correctly when I recently replaced the chain. My brain doesn't work so well, sometimes, so keep that in mind if you're tempted to follow my advice.
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Everything is sorted. The other thread helped me deal with the notched freehub when swapping the cassette, and I set the RD up with the goatlink replacing the b-link as intended, rather than extending. Also I got my front brake back from the shop -- trying to clean the pistons, I pushed a piston out too far, lost all the fluid, and was not skilled enough to recover.
So now I have a whole, well-running mountain bike agan: new chain, new cassette, rejiggered RD, two brakes which are smooth, quiet, effective, and feel equal in the two hands.
Went out with the wife for a great ride at Mt Laguna -- my favorite trails in San Diego: the lovely shaded gentle climb of Agua Dulce, the swooping banked downhill switchbacks of Gatos Ravine, and the gloriously flowy singletrack on the west side of the meadow loop. Only downside is it takes over an hour of driving to get there. If the job I'm angling for comes through and I move out of state, that may be the last time ever.
So now I have a whole, well-running mountain bike agan: new chain, new cassette, rejiggered RD, two brakes which are smooth, quiet, effective, and feel equal in the two hands.
Went out with the wife for a great ride at Mt Laguna -- my favorite trails in San Diego: the lovely shaded gentle climb of Agua Dulce, the swooping banked downhill switchbacks of Gatos Ravine, and the gloriously flowy singletrack on the west side of the meadow loop. Only downside is it takes over an hour of driving to get there. If the job I'm angling for comes through and I move out of state, that may be the last time ever.
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no, the thread very quickly focused on
If you have any tips I'd love to hear them!
Obvious solution: just replace the cassette you dumb cheap bastard!
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One thing I kind of taught myself is to look very closely at the chain while turning the crank slowly, watch to see if any of the links get grabbed by the next larger cog at all -- if so, dial the adjuster barrel to the right until that just barely stops happening
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As a general comment, derailleurs are designed for a certain cassette slope. So if you need a hanger extension to clear the low cog, you aren't changing the slant the derailleur works on, you're just lowering away from all the cogs. That's why the high gears (small cogs) can become harder to shift - you've moved the entire derailleur away from the small cogs. The only reason it works as all is due to the power of HG cogs.
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Forget all that chain wrap and B-screw crap. I want to know how to do this!
Forget all that chain wrap and B-screw crap. I want to know how to do this!
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lol step one you have to have a wife who is even more into mountain biking (and better at it) than yourself. I have no idea how I got so lucky, so I can't help you there




