Freehub compatibility
#1
Freehub compatibility
I am building a road bike with disc brakes. I ordered Elite wheels, and an 11 speed cassette. The wheels don't have a wide groove (all grooves are the same size) in the freehub. To my surprise the cassette I purchased fits...it doesn't have a wide spline (all splines are the same size). Is this the standard now? My experience is with freehubs that have a wide groove, and cassettes that have and wide spline.
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#5
Well, I know my eyesight is poor but didn't realize it was this poor. After further examination of the freehub, it does have a wide groove. My eyesight didn't fail with the ZTTO cassette though. It doesn't have a wide spline (all splines are the same size).
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If your hub has a wider groove, it is adjacent to a narrower spline on the hub.
The cassette must have a corresponding wider spline adjacent to a narrower groove. This is how loose cassette sprockets are oriented properly.
I happen to have a ZTTO cassette that is fully compatible with a Shimano-standard hub as I describe above
Post a good detailed picture of each and prove me wrong!
Here's one I pulled from the web.
Last edited by Camilo; 11-10-25 at 01:11 AM.
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I will bet (fake) money that you're wrong about the ZTTO cassette. If it fits on the free hub.
If your hub has a wider groove, it is adjacent to a narrower spline on the hub.
The cassette must have a corresponding wider spline adjacent to a narrower groove. This is how loose cassette sprockets are oriented properly.
I happen to have a ZTTO cassette that is fully compatible with a Shimano-standard hub as I describe above
Post a good detailed picture of each and prove me wrong!
Here's one I pulled from the web.

If your hub has a wider groove, it is adjacent to a narrower spline on the hub.
The cassette must have a corresponding wider spline adjacent to a narrower groove. This is how loose cassette sprockets are oriented properly.
I happen to have a ZTTO cassette that is fully compatible with a Shimano-standard hub as I describe above
Post a good detailed picture of each and prove me wrong!
Here's one I pulled from the web.

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I stand corrected! Thank you for the update!
Interesting about the monoblock, and if I had a great memory, I would have remembered that. I've only had one monoblock cassette in my life - a Red 10 speed at least 10+ years ago maybe 15. I guess i just didn't remember. Thanks for posting the pic and your patient understanding of my ignorance - or poor memory, take your pick!
Interesting about the monoblock, and if I had a great memory, I would have remembered that. I've only had one monoblock cassette in my life - a Red 10 speed at least 10+ years ago maybe 15. I guess i just didn't remember. Thanks for posting the pic and your patient understanding of my ignorance - or poor memory, take your pick!
Last edited by Camilo; 11-10-25 at 12:42 PM.
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Suspect it only needs the long tooth to make sure single cogs fit on the right way and with that monoblock, a uniform 2 narrow splines still fit those two slots.
edit: took me so long to write this, icemilkcoffee beat me to it
edit: took me so long to write this, icemilkcoffee beat me to it
#12
Ahh! Thanks for explaining this. In all my years of cycling, this is the first time I've had a monoblock cassette and I never knew this. Just goes to show how important forums like this can be.






