Need some help with this replacement wheel…
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Need some help with this replacement wheel…
I bought a 2014 Trek 7.3 today and the guy said it has a replacement rear wheel. This Trek is supposed to be a 9 speed cassette but they replaced it with a SRAM 8 speed on a hub of unknown origin. The rim is an Alexrims DA22, which Im reading is a low cost wheel. My question is, will a 9 speed cassette fit on this hub or should I track down the stock Bontrager Nebula wheel with Shimano RM30 hub that originally came on this bike? Any insight would be welcome(:






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a 9sp. HG style "Shimano compatible" cassette will fit right on, after the dirt and greasy buildup is removed.
SRAM, SunRace, and a host of other companies also make the HG style cassettes...
i choose Shimano, SunRace, or SRAM, usually... good quality, and decent resistance to wear.
and yes, the more expensive ones shift better and last longer.
depending on your rear derailleur, you might be able to use a wide ratio cassette, or you might need to step down a few teeth on the biggest cog... what derailleur is on the bike, presently?
as an educated guess.. the hub is, most likely, from a company named Formula. Make sure it has good, fresh grease in it... neglect can ruin bearing surfaces in any hub.
SRAM, SunRace, and a host of other companies also make the HG style cassettes...
i choose Shimano, SunRace, or SRAM, usually... good quality, and decent resistance to wear.
and yes, the more expensive ones shift better and last longer.
depending on your rear derailleur, you might be able to use a wide ratio cassette, or you might need to step down a few teeth on the biggest cog... what derailleur is on the bike, presently?
as an educated guess.. the hub is, most likely, from a company named Formula. Make sure it has good, fresh grease in it... neglect can ruin bearing surfaces in any hub.
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I had assumed if it was Shimano, it was "good enough". Wrong!
Cones are oxide coated (rust browned) instead of polished.
The 2 wheels in use that I have access to had the DS cones noticeably pitted after about 500 miles.
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The RM 30 is one of the crappiest hubs they ever produced I discovered after building 3 wheels using it.
I had assumed if it was Shimano, it was "good enough". Wrong!
Cones are oxide coated (rust browned) instead of polished.
The 2 wheels in use that I have access to had the DS cones noticeably pitted after about 500 miles.
I had assumed if it was Shimano, it was "good enough". Wrong!
Cones are oxide coated (rust browned) instead of polished.
The 2 wheels in use that I have access to had the DS cones noticeably pitted after about 500 miles.
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You've gotten good advice on the hub and cassette. My only comment/question - I'm assuming that the right shifter is 9 speed since you said the bike was originally 9 speed. How is that thing shifting with an 8 speed cassette? If they changed the shifter to match the 8 speed cassette, it won't work with a 9 speed cassette.
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You've gotten good advice on the hub and cassette. My only comment/question - I'm assuming that the right shifter is 9 speed since you said the bike was originally 9 speed. How is that thing shifting with an 8 speed cassette? If they changed the shifter to match the 8 speed cassette, it won't work with a 9 speed cassette.
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You've gotten good advice on the hub and cassette. My only comment/question - I'm assuming that the right shifter is 9 speed since you said the bike was originally 9 speed. How is that thing shifting with an 8 speed cassette? If they changed the shifter to match the 8 speed cassette, it won't work with a 9 speed cassette.
I'm glad you're replacing it and it should be dead simple if you stick within the specs of the rear derailleur (maximum tooth for largest sprocket, and maximum take up range). You'll want to check and re-adjust the RD.
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a 9sp. HG style "Shimano compatible" cassette will fit right on, after the dirt and greasy buildup is removed.
SRAM, SunRace, and a host of other companies also make the HG style cassettes...
i choose Shimano, SunRace, or SRAM, usually... good quality, and decent resistance to wear.
and yes, the more expensive ones shift better and last longer.
depending on your rear derailleur, you might be able to use a wide ratio cassette, or you might need to step down a few teeth on the biggest cog... what derailleur is on the bike, presently?
as an educated guess.. the hub is, most likely, from a company named Formula. Make sure it has good, fresh grease in it... neglect can ruin bearing surfaces in any hub.
SRAM, SunRace, and a host of other companies also make the HG style cassettes...
i choose Shimano, SunRace, or SRAM, usually... good quality, and decent resistance to wear.
and yes, the more expensive ones shift better and last longer.
depending on your rear derailleur, you might be able to use a wide ratio cassette, or you might need to step down a few teeth on the biggest cog... what derailleur is on the bike, presently?
as an educated guess.. the hub is, most likely, from a company named Formula. Make sure it has good, fresh grease in it... neglect can ruin bearing surfaces in any hub.
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SHIMANO ALIVIO REAR DERAILLEUR 9s
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The RM 30 is one of the crappiest hubs they ever produced I discovered after building 3 wheels using it.
I had assumed if it was Shimano, it was "good enough". Wrong!
Cones are oxide coated (rust browned) instead of polished.
The 2 wheels in use that I have access to had the DS cones noticeably pitted after about 500 miles.
I had assumed if it was Shimano, it was "good enough". Wrong!
Cones are oxide coated (rust browned) instead of polished.
The 2 wheels in use that I have access to had the DS cones noticeably pitted after about 500 miles.
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As far as I can tell, the Alivio 9 speed RD can take a 36t large sprocket and 45T total capacity. You should be able to use an 11-36t 9 speeed cassette easily with almost any double or triple crank you might have.
SHIMANO ALIVIO REAR DERAILLEUR 9s
SHIMANO ALIVIO REAR DERAILLEUR 9s
It appears to have been spec'd with an 11-32 cassette,
Without knowing the SPECIFIC MODEL Alivio, and able to actually research the largest cog size, I would stick with a 32T max cog.
Although a 34T would probably work, why take a chance?
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Something like RD-M430 or similar.
Knowing that, we can look up max cog size & chain wrap capacity.
The M-430 lists a 34T max cog & 45T chain wrap.
Apparently your rings are 26-36-48 for a 22T difference.
11-34 cassette = 23T difference for a total wrap capacity of 45T.
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This is a 2014 bike, not a current Alivio RDER.
It appears to have been spec'd with an 11-32 cassette,
Without knowing the SPECIFIC MODEL Alivio, and able to actually research the largest cog size, I would stick with a 32T max cog.
Although a 34T would probably work, why take a chance?
It appears to have been spec'd with an 11-32 cassette,
Without knowing the SPECIFIC MODEL Alivio, and able to actually research the largest cog size, I would stick with a 32T max cog.
Although a 34T would probably work, why take a chance?
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Definitely. Im heading to the LBS today to get one and some new brake pads. I have to watch myself, I have a tendency to want to throw money at "fixer-uppers" that don't need it): The first irrational thought that came into my head when I bought it was "Hmmm, maybe Ill upgrade everything on this $100 bike to Ultegra components and convert it to a drop bar bike"...Doh!!!
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