Losing a quick link while riding, no damage?
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Losing a quick link while riding, no damage?
Last night the quick link on my chain came off. I stopped and the group of us scoured the trail and found both pieces, since in a last minute bag switch I'd left my spares at home.
We found the pieces and I snapped them together and finished the ride, 10+ miles of solid off road riding, without incident.
Here's the weird part. This chain has been on the bike since the fall, and probably has at least 100-200 off road miles since installing. Nothing has changed. Even stranger was that the link appears undamaged. I fully expected the pins to have sheared off but it didn't happen.
The link is getting replaced, no question about it. But how weird is that? Modern 12 speed links usually need a tool to separate, they don't rattle off.
Anyway, I didn't have to walk home or do some half-fast chain shortening bodge.
We found the pieces and I snapped them together and finished the ride, 10+ miles of solid off road riding, without incident.
Here's the weird part. This chain has been on the bike since the fall, and probably has at least 100-200 off road miles since installing. Nothing has changed. Even stranger was that the link appears undamaged. I fully expected the pins to have sheared off but it didn't happen.
The link is getting replaced, no question about it. But how weird is that? Modern 12 speed links usually need a tool to separate, they don't rattle off.
Anyway, I didn't have to walk home or do some half-fast chain shortening bodge.
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i always put the slot at the rear on the inside of the link, when the link is on the top, pulling run... this will tend to push the pin back in the slot during cassette upshifts, i hope.
the only force that can pop the QL is the cassette during rear shifts, and the rings during front shifts... more cassette shifting than ring shifts, so i play the odds, i guess!
so far, no QLs coming loose.... knock on wood.
every once in a while, i run across a QL that is loose feeling, from the factory... i install about a hundred chains a year
the only force that can pop the QL is the cassette during rear shifts, and the rings during front shifts... more cassette shifting than ring shifts, so i play the odds, i guess!
so far, no QLs coming loose.... knock on wood.
every once in a while, i run across a QL that is loose feeling, from the factory... i install about a hundred chains a year
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rosefarts: Most likely you just did not lock the links together during installation? Please consider: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Master-.../dp/B007E8YO7Q
maddog34: Shimano 11-speed and 12-speed quick links have direction arrows for installation orientation.
maddog34: Shimano 11-speed and 12-speed quick links have direction arrows for installation orientation.
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rosefarts: Most likely you just did not lock the links together during installation? Please consider: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Master-.../dp/B007E8YO7Q
maddog34: Shimano 11-speed and 12-speed quick links have direction arrows for installation orientation.
maddog34: Shimano 11-speed and 12-speed quick links have direction arrows for installation orientation.
If I didn't fully engage the link on installing it last fall, then it held up to a lot of miles before coming off. Seems unlikely.
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rosefarts: Most likely you just did not lock the links together during installation? Please consider: https://www.amazon.com/Super-Master-.../dp/B007E8YO7Q
maddog34: Shimano 11-speed and 12-speed quick links have direction arrows for installation orientation.
maddog34: Shimano 11-speed and 12-speed quick links have direction arrows for installation orientation.
don't recall one on the SRAM flat top i installed recently, either.
Do you have one of the !2sp. Shimanos you can look at, to see which orientation the inner pin/keyhole is at?
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The trident has a better mechanism because one squeezes the handles together regardless of whether one is locking or unlocking the quick link. As you squeeze the handles, the middle prong moves toward the left prong while moving away from the right prong. Which pairs of prongs you use depends on whether you are locking or unlocking the quick links. To me this method of operation seems less prone to operator error than the Park or similar link pliers.
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At one time not too long ago KMC's website had images of chains with connecting links installed in both directions... Andy.
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Per Shimano's instructions (for both 11-speed and 12-speed), the arrow on the quick link facing outward should point along the direction of chain movement as the crank is pedaled. This puts the pin attached to that quick link "forward" with respect to the path of the chain. But of course the other quick link facing inward is installed in the opposite orientation..
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I had a U shaped quick link fail like that after years. Theoretically maybe the slot was never fully on the pin. Or the chain/chainring got bumped loading the bike in a car or something. I hear they wear out too/aren't very reusable.
Threw out all my U shaped quick links after that, which have a plate you bend to get them on. Nowadays I only use the symmetric quick links which are shaped like two letter L pieces. I feel the manufacturer can make these much stronger.

Threw out all my U shaped quick links after that, which have a plate you bend to get them on. Nowadays I only use the symmetric quick links which are shaped like two letter L pieces. I feel the manufacturer can make these much stronger.

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To be honest, I have no idea which direction I had initially placed the quick link and also, I have no idea which direction I remounted it after I found the two sides.
I'll double check it when I replace the link. Even if it's fine, I don't trust it. I will go ahead and look closely at it,
I'll double check it when I replace the link. Even if it's fine, I don't trust it. I will go ahead and look closely at it,
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No, the other way. Look at the circled photo posted by lnanek directly above.
somewhat higher chain loading during shifts would reduce the separations to zero.
so much for the old school friction lever "back off and sneak up on front shifts" technique, eh?
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But, did you buy a lottery ticket? Who would think you could be lucky enough to find both pieces on a trail?
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FWIW, I happened to have oil slick color for that one. I think it might be easier to find than dull silver. Never leave home without a spare.
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I think I will put a spare in my tool kit, especially as they are small. I just added a spoke wrench after having a couple recent purchased bikes with minimal chainstay clearance. I broken spoke and Ouch.





