What is the advantage of a threadless headset vs a threaded?
#76
Originally Posted by operator
The run of the mill rec rider could hardly give a bigger **** about miniscule "stiffness" benefit. Just because racers use it and abuse stuff doesn't mean the rest of the world needs to run the same gear they do.
The threaded headset required constant adjustment. After a crash in the middle of a ride it was knocked loose, and not knowing enough or having the proper tools to tighten it correctly I was forced to ride it loose to get back home. The threading got damaged, and pretty soon the headset was coming loose pretty much on a weekly basis, even after taking it down to the shop to get it tightened multiple times. My headset and quill stem also creaked - a lot. Every hard stroke up a hill would give me a very confidence-inspiring squeak or groan from the whole setup, even with all the bolts tightened down.
I finally received a shiny new silver headset from Bianchi under warranty, and boy did it look nice. The problems went away, but even so I was turned off of threaded headsets for good. During the three months in which I owned the Brava, there was not a one to two week period when a new headset problem arose. I gotta honestly say that I'm a lot happier with my new Veloce with threadless.
Here is the small list of advantages and disadvantages that I compiled through my experience only. Please note that most people with threaded headsets haven't experienced the problems I have and like them very much, but I'm just recounting based on my story.
Threaded
-Comes loose, requires constant adjustment
-Requires a flat 32 mm wrench to properly maintain/tighten
-Creaky (for me at least)
-Lack of stiffness
-Always a little bit of play between fork and steerer, even when tightened down
-Admittedly, looks very beautiful when done right
-Adjustable
Threadless
-Non-adjustable
-Lack of 'classic look'
-Much stiffer, tighter
-Adjustment requires minimal tools
#77
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Bikes: Cinelli Supercoursa 69, Ritchey Breakaway Cross, Mondonico Diamond Extra 05, Coors Light Greg Lemond (built by Scapin) 88, Scapin MTB, Stumpjumper 83, Specialized Stumpjumper M4, Lemond Poprad 2001
Originally Posted by FarHorizon
Absolutely none at all. Both threaded and threadless do the job just fine. Threadless forks are less expensive to manufacture. IMHO that is why threadless has become standard.
#78
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From: Boulder, Colorado
Bikes: Cinelli Supercoursa 69, Ritchey Breakaway Cross, Mondonico Diamond Extra 05, Coors Light Greg Lemond (built by Scapin) 88, Scapin MTB, Stumpjumper 83, Specialized Stumpjumper M4, Lemond Poprad 2001
Originally Posted by the beef
The threaded headset required constant adjustment. After a crash in the middle of a ride it was knocked loose, and not knowing enough or having the proper tools to tighten it correctly I was forced to ride it loose to get back home. The threading got damaged, and pretty soon the headset was coming loose pretty much on a weekly basis, even after taking it down to the shop to get it tightened multiple times. My headset and quill stem also creaked - a lot. Every hard stroke up a hill would give me a very confidence-inspiring squeak or groan from the whole setup, even with all the bolts tightened down.
IThreaded
-Comes loose, requires constant adjustment
-Requires a flat 32 mm wrench to properly maintain/tighten
-Creaky (for me at least)
-Lack of stiffness
-Always a little bit of play between fork and steerer, even when tightened down
-Admittedly, looks very beautiful when done right
-Adjustable
Threadless
-Non-adjustable
-Lack of 'classic look'
-Much stiffer, tighter
-Adjustment requires minimal tools
IThreaded
-Comes loose, requires constant adjustment
-Requires a flat 32 mm wrench to properly maintain/tighten
-Creaky (for me at least)
-Lack of stiffness
-Always a little bit of play between fork and steerer, even when tightened down
-Admittedly, looks very beautiful when done right
-Adjustable
Threadless
-Non-adjustable
-Lack of 'classic look'
-Much stiffer, tighter
-Adjustment requires minimal tools
I have a number of bikes threadless as well as my older steel threaded ones. Still ride about 5K miles per year distributed between all my bikes, so none of my bikes are what one would deem as "wall art."
Good luck
#79
Originally Posted by cohophysh
Okay, so if you have a threaded stem and you want to change to threadless, what do you need?
You need to get the old headset cups out of the frame (be careful, but a flat head screw driver, a mallet and patience will do it. Then you press the new cups into the frame (you can make a home made press with a threaded rod, some washers or bushings and a few bolts). The last tricky bit is pressing the new race onto the fork. All of this isn't all that hard, but if you don't feel comforatble with all of that, have a shop do it.





