Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Bicycle Mechanics
Reload this Page >

One knobby, one slick -- which wheel gets what?

Notices
Bicycle Mechanics Broken bottom bracket? Tacoed wheel? If you're having problems with your bicycle, or just need help fixing a flat, drop in here for the latest on bicycle mechanics & bicycle maintenance.

One knobby, one slick -- which wheel gets what?

Old 06-10-06 | 02:40 PM
  #1  
godspiral's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 876
Likes: 0
One knobby, one slick -- which wheel gets what?

The knobby is 1.95 wide, the slick is 1.4 wide. For city use,

which tire do i put in front?
what setup would be faster?
help with hand vibration?
overall bumpyness?
godspiral is offline  
Reply
Old 06-10-06 | 03:09 PM
  #2  
sch
Senior Member
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 4,054
Likes: 163
From: Mountain Brook. AL
Slick in front would be less bumpy than the knobby in front and easier on the hands. Doubt much difference in speed as the knobby will slow you down a lot (5-10mph).
Steve
sch is offline  
Reply
Old 06-10-06 | 05:07 PM
  #3  
Hobartlemagne's Avatar
Spelling Snob
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,862
Likes: 2
From: Plano, Texas

Bikes: Panasonic DX4000, Bianchi Pista

+1

Also if you lose any traction, its far better on the rear rather than the front.
__________________

The first rule of flats is You don't talk about flats!
Hobartlemagne is offline  
Reply
Old 06-10-06 | 06:23 PM
  #4  
Yet another vegan biker
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 965
Likes: 6
From: Trapped behind the corn curtain

Bikes: Sakae Prism, Vintage Fuji bike(S), too many bikes, one from scratch bike.

There are several reasons I would, and do, run the slick as the rear tire.

The rear tire bears the most weight and creates the most drag. Putting a higher pressure slick in the rear will greatly boost your speed.

The front wheel is the critical wheel for steering traction and the the wider knobby will helpkeep steering smooth through bumps and potholes.
silversmith is offline  
Reply
Old 06-10-06 | 08:38 PM
  #5  
godspiral's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 876
Likes: 0
I find traction adequate with 2 knobs on road for the way I ride.

I wen't with the slick in back. Didn't test very long, but doesn't seem too bumpy in back.
Sheldon Brown's site suggests this will be the fastest setup. The big question mark for me was whether smaller smooth tire in front has less vibration than large knobby.
godspiral is offline  
Reply
Old 06-10-06 | 09:02 PM
  #6  
Yet another vegan biker
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 965
Likes: 6
From: Trapped behind the corn curtain

Bikes: Sakae Prism, Vintage Fuji bike(S), too many bikes, one from scratch bike.

Uh... try some at-the-limit sliding cornering with the slick vs. knobby in front. Which do you think would be smoother? Which do you think would be sketchy?


As far as traction goes, slicks have better traction on pavement.

I currently use a 1.5 Geax slick on front with a Ritchey 1.00 slick driving the rear. Its a tremendous speed difference over running 1 or both knobbies.

I rarely use that mt bike anymore for commuting. Now it only gets used on rainy days. Most of the time I ride my road bike and it sports 700 x 23 slicks. They reliably carry me over the 2 miles of gravel that I must cross on my daily commute.
silversmith is offline  
Reply
Old 06-10-06 | 11:38 PM
  #7  
Amateur Hack
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
From: Austin

Bikes: Marin mtb turned tri turned commuter turned singlespeed, Haro Werks 2.0, Specialized Epic Allez carbon main tube built up for triathlons

I'd put the fatty on the rear to use the extra air to absorb shocks to my butt. If I was more concerned about my hands, I'd put it up front. If you are really worried about speed, go and buy another slick.
_dhan_ is offline  
Reply
Old 06-11-06 | 03:31 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 405
Likes: 0
For city use I'd go with two slicks. Why do you need one knobby tire on the city streets?
In the winter I use knobby up front to crush through snow and once it gets really bad I switch to two.
sunofsand is offline  
Reply
Old 06-11-06 | 06:42 PM
  #9  
Drive the Bicycle.
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 608
Likes: 0
From: Northern California

Bikes: Three-speed modified for comfort.

Originally Posted by godspiral
The knobby is 1.95 wide, the slick is 1.4 wide. For city use, ...which tire do i put in front?
--- Check out this thread from January 4th, 2005 entitled "Tires: Mix or Match?":
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ight=mix+match
__________________
"The bicycle is the perfect transducer to match man's metabolic energy to the impedance of locomotion. Equipped with this tool, man outstrips the efficiency of not only all machines but all other animals as well." Ivan Illich ('Energy and Equity')1974
77Univega is offline  
Reply
Old 06-11-06 | 07:57 PM
  #10  
godspiral's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 876
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by sunofsand
For city use I'd go with two slicks. Why do you need one knobby tire on the city streets?
I will get another slick within a few weeks. Using one tire at a time to get each size right.

So far slick on back feels slightly faster (but not dramatically), but its comfortable.
godspiral is offline  
Reply
Old 06-12-06 | 03:29 PM
  #11  
Certifiable Bike "Expert"
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 5,648
Likes: 1
I think a Performance brand slick is under $10 right now...
Phantoj is offline  
Reply
Old 06-28-06 | 03:04 PM
  #12  
godspiral's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 876
Likes: 0
I'm up to 2 slicks now. Have a similar bike with 2 knobs that is setup most of the time as a grocery getter, but is also the wife's touring-by-designation bike.

Some of the results from the experiment:
There is a much bigger impact on speed going from knob to slick on back, than from adding the 2nd slick.
big knobby on front or back is noticeably more comfortable for bumbs, and a slight improvement on vibration. A $25 nimus 1.5 with kevlar thicker decorative-hybrid-rain-car-tire thread seems noticeably more comfortable than a $20 no-name 1.4 slick.

I don't really understand the traction arguments on road. The only time I've come close to losing traction was turning too quick too slow, and remedied by pedalling/accelerating out of it. Front wheel traction might come into play trying to go as fast as possible downhill on a twisty path, but that seems more like offroad scenario, and at least not typical city commuting riding style.

Fatter tires seem to handle great on roads, and knobbies appear to have perfectly adequate traction. Handling 1.95 knobbies seems better than 1.4/1.5 slicks, but only marginally.
godspiral is offline  
Reply
Old 06-28-06 | 03:34 PM
  #13  
cab horn
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 28,353
Likes: 30
From: Toronto

Bikes: 1987 Bianchi Campione

Slick tires are best in all conditions, on all road. Note road, not trails, gravel others.
operator is offline  
Reply
Old 06-28-06 | 03:44 PM
  #14  
slowandsteady's Avatar
Faster but still slow
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,978
Likes: 2
From: Jersey

Bikes: Trek 830 circa 1993 and a Fuji WSD Finest 1.0 2006

Had the same situation. I had one slick, one knobby for my MTB. I put the slick on front and didn't notice much improvement in speed, maybe 1 mph. However, when I put the slick on back, I got a 3-4 mph increase and much better handling and cornering.
slowandsteady is offline  
Reply
Old 06-28-06 | 03:46 PM
  #15  
Videre non videri
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,208
Likes: 4
From: Gothenburg, Sweden

Bikes: 1 road bike (simple, light), 1 TT bike (could be more aero, could be lighter), 1 all-weather commuter and winter bike, 1 Monark 828E ergometer indoor bike

Simple rule:
Loose surfaces - best traction offered by knobbies.
Hard surfaces - best traction offered by slicks.
CdCf is offline  
Reply
Old 06-28-06 | 03:59 PM
  #16  
Surferbruce's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,308
Likes: 2
From: Los Angeles/Aveyron France
slick in back, knobby up front. rear wheel has way more traction when under pedal force.
Surferbruce is offline  
Reply
Old 06-28-06 | 05:11 PM
  #17  
Retro Grouch's Avatar
Senior Member
Titanium Club Membership
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 30,225
Likes: 649
From: St Peters, Missouri

Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.

So tell me. Is this a scheme for making your bike less attractive to thieves?
Retro Grouch is offline  
Reply
Old 06-28-06 | 05:56 PM
  #18  
godspiral's Avatar
Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 876
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
So tell me. Is this a scheme for making your bike less attractive to thieves?
Its about upgrading a MTB for commuting, and balancing speed, cost, comfort, and yeah, maximum dorkiness for thievability
godspiral is offline  
Reply

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.