Loose Balls vs Caged Balls
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Originally Posted by JanMM
One of my ambitions in life is to be a Village Idiot. how do you place a bearing with a magnet?
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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
Are you kidding me? This is BF! You can ger flamed for anything, in here - just for misstyping "break" instead of "brake" you are called an idiot! But you know what? At the end of the day, we have cameradery - because what unites us is greater than what separates us: we all have in common the love for cycling
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It seems like a lot of grief and misunderstanding could have been avoided if people just said:
Use as many bearings as will fit into the race for hubs and BBs, and use one less than that many for headsets.
Use as many bearings as will fit into the race for hubs and BBs, and use one less than that many for headsets.
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I think there is a disagreement to what the "n" actually is. I understand what you are saying in that "n" is the number of ball bearings that fit perfectly on a race. Whereas Cascade168 on this thread (page 1, 9th post) says that n is the number of ball bearings that are actually one too many to fit perfectly on the race. Something he refers to as "jumble". Who is right?
Is "n" the number of ball bearings that will fit perfectly on a race? Or is "n" the number of ball bearings that are one too many from fitting perfectly on the race?
Is "n" the number of ball bearings that will fit perfectly on a race? Or is "n" the number of ball bearings that are one too many from fitting perfectly on the race?

I thought it was commonly agreed that "n" is defined
as the number of bikes you now own in the equation:
Ideal number of bikes = n + 1
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reverting back to topic,
A one piece crank [1/2" pedal thread] requires the retainers..
for the bearing-balls, ..
you cannot assemble it with loose balls.
Campagnolo made some nylon retainers,
and they used the same count as the loose ball ,
but for bikes that needed frequent maintenance,
like 'mud pluggers', aka Cyclocross,
the weekly overhaul and cleaning
benefitted by plunking the whole ball set in as one item..
A one piece crank [1/2" pedal thread] requires the retainers..
for the bearing-balls, ..
you cannot assemble it with loose balls.
Campagnolo made some nylon retainers,
and they used the same count as the loose ball ,
but for bikes that needed frequent maintenance,
like 'mud pluggers', aka Cyclocross,
the weekly overhaul and cleaning
benefitted by plunking the whole ball set in as one item..
Last edited by fietsbob; 10-17-11 at 01:37 PM.
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