Can SB's alternate cable routing trick be used on new Shimano Shadow RDs?
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Can SB's alternate cable routing trick be used on new Shimano Shadow RDs?
The trick in question; I specifically want to use 10s shifters on a relatively inexpensive 9s 11-32 cassette.
The design and cable routing of the new "Shadow" (2008 XT series) is considerably different from previous Shimano RDs. My local shops are mysteriously fresh out of old-style, top-normal MTB RDs, but are loaded with these Shadows . I'm not too keen to experiment and find out the hard way that it won't work, so I thought I'd ask and see if anyone else has tried or wants to try to convince me that it'll all be okay
The design and cable routing of the new "Shadow" (2008 XT series) is considerably different from previous Shimano RDs. My local shops are mysteriously fresh out of old-style, top-normal MTB RDs, but are loaded with these Shadows . I'm not too keen to experiment and find out the hard way that it won't work, so I thought I'd ask and see if anyone else has tried or wants to try to convince me that it'll all be okay
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Deore XT brand new, cost me $55. I wonder how much money you spending on your der. 10 speed shifters work with it, it's bottom-normal..
As far as casette goes. It will cost me about $100 for 10 speed SRAM casette and chain, or about $40 for casette plus the chain. 10 speed shfters? $150ish.
Good thing about 10 speed shifters is that they up and down shift twice (and once as well). This makes for a pretty good combination. The 9 speed shifters usually upshift once and down shifts up to 3 times. (3 clicks). That means downshifting only 1 gear at at time when used with bottom-normal rear der. Other than that 10 speed shifters are a better value, say if your 9 speed broke and you have to replace it. Same money, only now you can upgrade to 10 speed later down the road.
God, I hope they don't come up with an 11 speed. I know I'd want it.
As far as casette goes. It will cost me about $100 for 10 speed SRAM casette and chain, or about $40 for casette plus the chain. 10 speed shfters? $150ish.
Good thing about 10 speed shifters is that they up and down shift twice (and once as well). This makes for a pretty good combination. The 9 speed shifters usually upshift once and down shifts up to 3 times. (3 clicks). That means downshifting only 1 gear at at time when used with bottom-normal rear der. Other than that 10 speed shifters are a better value, say if your 9 speed broke and you have to replace it. Same money, only now you can upgrade to 10 speed later down the road.
God, I hope they don't come up with an 11 speed. I know I'd want it.
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Deore XT brand new, cost me $55. I wonder how much money you spending on your der. 10 speed shifters work with it, it's bottom-normal..
As far as casette goes. It will cost me about $100 for 10 speed SRAM casette and chain, or about $40 for casette plus the chain. 10 speed shfters? $150ish.
Good thing about 10 speed shifters is that they up and down shift twice (and once as well). This makes for a pretty good combination. The 9 speed shifters usually upshift once and down shifts up to 3 times. (3 clicks). That means downshifting only 1 gear at at time when used with bottom-normal rear der. Other than that 10 speed shifters are a better value, say if your 9 speed broke and you have to replace it. Same money, only now you can upgrade to 10 speed later down the road.
God, I hope they don't come up with an 11 speed. I know I'd want it.
As far as casette goes. It will cost me about $100 for 10 speed SRAM casette and chain, or about $40 for casette plus the chain. 10 speed shfters? $150ish.
Good thing about 10 speed shifters is that they up and down shift twice (and once as well). This makes for a pretty good combination. The 9 speed shifters usually upshift once and down shifts up to 3 times. (3 clicks). That means downshifting only 1 gear at at time when used with bottom-normal rear der. Other than that 10 speed shifters are a better value, say if your 9 speed broke and you have to replace it. Same money, only now you can upgrade to 10 speed later down the road.
God, I hope they don't come up with an 11 speed. I know I'd want it.
For reasons I don't feel I need to justify, I don't want a low-normal RD, and I'm truly interested in getting my actual question answered.
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I can't tell you whether or not it will work with this specific derailleur.
But if you want to go that way, there is another solution if the "alternate routing" doesn't work: Shiftmate model 2.
Sorry that I can't be more specific.
But if you want to go that way, there is another solution if the "alternate routing" doesn't work: Shiftmate model 2.
Sorry that I can't be more specific.
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I can't tell you whether or not it will work with this specific derailleur.
But if you want to go that way, there is another solution if the "alternate routing" doesn't work: Shiftmate model 2.
Sorry that I can't be more specific.
But if you want to go that way, there is another solution if the "alternate routing" doesn't work: Shiftmate model 2.
Sorry that I can't be more specific.
Most likely if I can't get an authoritative answer on it, I will just mail order and wait for an old-style top normal RD. But these seem to be like Shimano 9-speed road components these days for some reason...
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The trick in question; I specifically want to use 10s shifters on a relatively inexpensive 9s 11-32 cassette.
The design and cable routing of the new "Shadow" (2008 XT series) is considerably different from previous Shimano RDs. My local shops are mysteriously fresh out of old-style, top-normal MTB RDs, but are loaded with these Shadows . I'm not too keen to experiment and find out the hard way that it won't work, so I thought I'd ask and see if anyone else has tried or wants to try to convince me that it'll all be okay
The design and cable routing of the new "Shadow" (2008 XT series) is considerably different from previous Shimano RDs. My local shops are mysteriously fresh out of old-style, top-normal MTB RDs, but are loaded with these Shadows . I'm not too keen to experiment and find out the hard way that it won't work, so I thought I'd ask and see if anyone else has tried or wants to try to convince me that it'll all be okay
Al