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MyBikeGotStolen 08-11-07 12:00 AM

Why are tubular tires the ones with out the tubes? And the ones with the tubes are not called tubulars, they are clinchers.

That and the "clips less" pedals that you clip in were the hardest things for me to figure out when I started getting into biking. I thought clipless was just another word for platforms!

ib4it 08-11-07 01:36 AM

Head Tube

stevegor 08-11-07 04:20 AM


Originally Posted by wethepeople (Post 5046050)
And what is Stevegor?

A: A person who doesn't respect a sport for what it is, so instead of doing research or being happy that there is another cycling activity that a broader range of people can enjoy, he just blindly insults it. Also a person who deserves more flat tyres then he gets.


Mate, I am sure you are intelligent enough to realize I said "Feral" bmx riders, which implies that NOT EVERY bmx rider is FERAL, I could have also said, "Feral roadies, or MTBers, or track riders, tourers, TTers, bents, folders, penny farthing, cyclo-cross etc...get the point? ;)

And by the way, I stand in awe at the skills of bmx riders.....absolutely outstanding.
So don't become what you think I am.....ignorant,
I'm sorry if you misunderstood me.

wroomwroomoops 08-11-07 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by GV27 (Post 5041116)
Riding usually works pretty well for me....... ;-)

Takes too much time on some of the tires. Usually the ones with way too many tits (i.e. cheap chinese POS tires you put on your ****bike (a ****bike is a lower category of bikes, than beaters - it's the kind of bike you WISH was stolen).

HillRider 08-11-07 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by halfspeed (Post 5046773)
Or to be doubly redundant "front forks". Hint: There's only one fork on a bike and it's in the front.

I've seen the rear triangle referred to as the "rear fork", so maybe there are two on a bike.

Wordbiker 08-11-07 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by MyBikeGotStolen (Post 5046937)
Why are tubular tires the ones with out the tubes? And the ones with the tubes are not called tubulars, they are clinchers.

Good one. "Hoopular tires" wouldn't really fly, now would it?

Tire beads look nothing like a bead at all.

Why are trick bikes called BMX? They have nothing to do with Bicycle motocross.

Why is a wheelie called a manual when done on a "BMX"? Neither term describes a front wheel lift very well, and how else would you perform one other than manually?

I wondered why certain components were called "campy"...so I looked up the definition:


Camp is derived from the French slang term se camper, which means “to pose in an exaggerated fashion.” The OED gives 1909 as the first citation of camp in print, with the sense of "ostentatious, exaggerated, affected, theatrical; effeminate or *****exual; pertaining to or characteristic of *****exuals.

halfspeed 08-11-07 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by HillRider (Post 5047481)
I've seen the rear triangle referred to as the "rear fork", so maybe there are two on a bike.

Nah, it's a 'rear triangle' (although there are actually two, but that's another rant). There's no such thing as a 'rear fork'.

halfspeed 08-11-07 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by MyBikeGotStolen (Post 5046937)
Why are tubular tires the ones with out the tubes? And the ones with the tubes are not called tubulars, they are clinchers.

This one makes sense to me. Tubular tires perform the function of tubes, thus they are tubular. Clinchers are clinchers because that's how they mount.

JanMM 08-11-07 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by El Julioso (Post 5045988)
I don't think I could say "brifter" with a straight face.

Flat pedals without toe clips are also, technically, clipless. But they are generally referred to as "flat pedals", even though they are never geometrically flat.

I've never said the word "brifters" and don't intend to.
The clipless situation is a linguistic mess.

Sluggo 08-11-07 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by halfspeed (Post 5047988)
... Clinchers are clinchers because that's how they mount.

"Clincher" is a good example of why bicycling terminology is so confusing. The term originally referred to a tire with a thick rubber edge (and no wire bead) that "clinched" into a hooked edge on the rim (a much more pronounced hook than what you see on today's rims). Tires with a wire bead are more properly called "wire-on". As real clinchers became obsolete, use of the word "clincher" migrated to all non-"tubular" tires. Nobody but the purists make the distinction between clinchers and wire-ons anymore.

Road Fan 08-11-07 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by MyBikeGotStolen (Post 5046937)
Why are tubular tires the ones with out the tubes? And the ones with the tubes are not called tubulars, they are clinchers.

Not quite on target! Tubular tires, except for some (all?) Tufos, have tubes sewn inside them.

Road Fan

Road Fan 08-11-07 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by GV27 (Post 5041118)
My new frame is 100% Scandium........

That's scandalous!

Road Fan 08-11-07 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by stevegor (Post 5044083)
Well, in Oz we pronounce it as "Bi-sic-al" maybe in the US you say "Bi-si-cal"?
Let's not argue about it...we'll call them "Treddlies" or "Pushies"

this subtlety is lost on me the way you write it - can you write the two pronunciations in a more standard notation, or at least explain the difference?

It the US we sound the first "i" as a long i as in "tie," the "y" as a short i as it "sick," and the last syllable is a swallowed vowel I think is called a "schwa."

Road Fan

LWaB 08-11-07 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by halfspeed (Post 5047946)
Nah, it's a 'rear triangle' (although there are actually two, but that's another rant). There's no such thing as a 'rear fork'.

Some bikes have rear forks, old Moultons for one.
http://www.answers.com/topic/moulton-bicycle for a picture

DMF 08-12-07 08:36 AM

The proper pronunciation of bicycle has a ī (long i) sound in the second syllable.

Bushman 08-12-07 12:26 PM

jeeesuuuus H chriiiissssst! GO RIDE YOUR BICYCLES!

HillRider 08-12-07 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Bushman (Post 5052877)
jeeesuuuus H chriiiissssst! GO RIDE YOUR BICYCLES!

And on that note, here endeth this thread. :rolleyes:

Wordbiker 08-21-07 09:09 PM

Why do you use a 9-speed chain on a 27-speed bike? Shouldn't it be a 27-speed chain?

(Did anyone else see A Scanner Darkly? " Bicycle Clip)

halfspeed 08-21-07 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by Wordbiker (Post 5118988)
Why do you use a 9-speed chain on a 27-speed bike? Shouldn't it be a 27-speed chain?

(Did anyone else see A Scanner Darkly? " Bicycle Clip)

Great marketing idea. The chain companies could sell the same chain as an "18 speed" chain and a "27 speed" chain and charge a 50% premium for the "27 speed" version because it supports the extra speeds!

CdCf 08-21-07 11:53 PM

At the bike shop where I work, we sell a couple of models designated as "0-speed"! They're really 1-speed, of course, but someone didn't quite think it through... :D

pdxtex 08-22-07 02:12 AM


Originally Posted by El Julioso (Post 5037771)
My favourite messed-up term must be "brifters"... it's logical to call them "shifters" because they "shift" from one gear to another, but what on earth does "brift" mean?

dumbest term ever and most ingenious modern cycling innovation at the same time......but yeah, they are SHIFters....

CdCf 08-22-07 02:32 AM

No, they're brifters, since they're both brakes and shifters. Nothing wrong at all with that term - it's in fact one of the most clever I've seen.

This is a SHIFTer lever:
http://frontofthepack.com/catalog/im...da10_shift.jpg

This is a BRAKE lever:
http://www.bmxultra.com/reviews/pict...ektrotalon.jpg

This is a BRIFTER:
http://harriscyclery.net/merchant/37...rge/LD0610.jpg

Quite simple, really!

Tapeworm21 08-22-07 02:32 AM

Chainstay.

Never understood why we call it that. The chain stays off to the side of the bike. Not part of the rear triangle.

Bob Dopolina 08-22-07 02:44 AM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 5038565)
Any tips on removing tire tits? I hate them (maybe the term, too, but that's beside the point now), and I'm sure they cause some kind of attrition with the air. Must be.

They are a result of the manufacturing process and are actually a good thing.

If you want to get rid of them, ride your bike.

Bob Dopolina 08-22-07 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by GV27 (Post 5041118)
My new frame is 100% Scandium........

I thought scandium was just an element the Russians starting adding to aluminium in fighters? Isn't it just another alloy? What does 100% Scandium mean?


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