Argon in tyres?
#1
Thread Starter
Videre non videri
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,208
Likes: 4
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Bikes: 1 road bike (simple, light), 1 TT bike (could be more aero, could be lighter), 1 all-weather commuter and winter bike, 1 Monark 828E ergometer indoor bike
Argon in tyres?
Having read a couple of threads about how various gases diffuse through the butyl rubber in tubes, I wonder if an inert gas would be better? Argon is fairly abundant and its atomic radius is pretty big as well, if that matters.
#4
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 33,657
Likes: 1,119
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
The other two posters have it right but I still have to ask; what problem are you trying to solve?
#6
Thread Starter
Videre non videri
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,208
Likes: 4
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Bikes: 1 road bike (simple, light), 1 TT bike (could be more aero, could be lighter), 1 all-weather commuter and winter bike, 1 Monark 828E ergometer indoor bike
Ah, FFS people, why does every thread here have to turn into stupid stuff like this?
Personally, I would never dream of using anything but a regular old pump to fill my tubes. I've never even used a CO2 thingy.
Can't you for one second think about something theoretically? Are you really that narrow in your thought processes, that you find that impossible?
View this as a question in the same vein as a question such as "Are we alone in the universe?"...
Personally, I would never dream of using anything but a regular old pump to fill my tubes. I've never even used a CO2 thingy.
Can't you for one second think about something theoretically? Are you really that narrow in your thought processes, that you find that impossible?
View this as a question in the same vein as a question such as "Are we alone in the universe?"...
#7
Good question. Given threads like this, there has to be more intelligent life out there somewhere.
#8
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 33,657
Likes: 1,119
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Bikes: '96 Litespeed Catalyst, '05 Litespeed Firenze, '06 Litespeed Tuscany, '20 Surly Midnight Special, All are 3x10. It is hilly around here!
#9
Senior Member

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 8,521
Likes: 2
From: Beaufort, South Carolina, USA and surrounding islands.
Bikes: Cannondale R500, Motobecane Messenger
Race cars use pure nitrogen in those tires because ambient air can have too much moisture. When that moisture boils, you can have all kinds of problems. We cyclists never deal with anything close to those kinds of speeds and cornering forces. The same can be said of our street cars.
#11
Thread Starter
Videre non videri
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,208
Likes: 4
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Bikes: 1 road bike (simple, light), 1 TT bike (could be more aero, could be lighter), 1 all-weather commuter and winter bike, 1 Monark 828E ergometer indoor bike
Forget the practicalities and focus on the chemistry and physics of it.
#13
it is the concentration of these trace gases that causes the greenhouse gas problem. The trace gases are made up of Argon, Carbon Dioxide, Neon, Helium, Methane, Hydrogen, Nitrous Oxide and Ozone.
There goes my personal methane recycling idea...
I can forget about NAWS for my bike too.
#16
It's an old photo
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 774
Likes: 0
From: Entropia
Bikes: Cannondale R500, Specialized Hardrock
#18
Race cars use pure nitrogen in those tires because ambient air can have too much moisture. When that moisture boils, you can have all kinds of problems. We cyclists never deal with anything close to those kinds of speeds and cornering forces. The same can be said of our street cars.
#20
Size isn't the only factor -- polarity will affect the diffusivity as well.
I think you should fill your tubes with UF6, which has a very low speed of sound. That way, everytime you braked you'd get little sonic booms in your tires.
**for all you physicists out there: yes, I know. work with me here...
I think you should fill your tubes with UF6, which has a very low speed of sound. That way, everytime you braked you'd get little sonic booms in your tires.
**for all you physicists out there: yes, I know. work with me here...
#21
#24
Call me The Breeze
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3,702
Likes: 8
From: Cooper Ontario
Bikes: 2004 Litespeed Siena, 1996 Litespeed Obed, 1992 Miele (unknown model), 1982 Meile Uno LS.
#25
Thread Starter
Videre non videri
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,208
Likes: 4
From: Gothenburg, Sweden
Bikes: 1 road bike (simple, light), 1 TT bike (could be more aero, could be lighter), 1 all-weather commuter and winter bike, 1 Monark 828E ergometer indoor bike




