Causes of chain skipping?
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Causes of chain skipping?
i have a 1988 cannondale SM500 with suntour X1 rear derailleur and suntour 5-speed freewheel.
i started getting chain skipping on the smallest cog. the derailleur shifted fine and smoothly with indexed shifting and everything lined up fine and was silent when pedalling, so i didn't think i had an indexing or chain alignment problem. i measured the chain and sure enough it had over 1/8" of stretch over 12 links. upon cleaning and inspection of the freewheel, i so no visible wear on any of the cogs. so, i bought a new chain (KMC), removed, degreased and relubed the derailleur, installed the new chain and re-adjusted the derailleur for indexing.
now, it skips even worse! but still only on the smallest cog. there is no slippage on any other cogs and the indexed shifting works perfectly. again, i looked very carefully and can't detect any smoothing or wear around the teeth and the chain seems to seat perfectly around the cog with no visible gaps. and again, the derailleur pulleys align perfectly with the cog. when determining the length of the new chain, i wrapped the chain around the largest cog and chainring combo, bypassing the derailleur, then added two links.
i'm wondering if the skipping can be caused be inadequate derailleur tension and/or the distance between the cog and the first derailleur pulley? i'm no expert on derailleurs and i've never played with either of these adjustments. i don't want to mess with these until someone chimes in.
any other thoughts?
thanks in advance!
i started getting chain skipping on the smallest cog. the derailleur shifted fine and smoothly with indexed shifting and everything lined up fine and was silent when pedalling, so i didn't think i had an indexing or chain alignment problem. i measured the chain and sure enough it had over 1/8" of stretch over 12 links. upon cleaning and inspection of the freewheel, i so no visible wear on any of the cogs. so, i bought a new chain (KMC), removed, degreased and relubed the derailleur, installed the new chain and re-adjusted the derailleur for indexing.
now, it skips even worse! but still only on the smallest cog. there is no slippage on any other cogs and the indexed shifting works perfectly. again, i looked very carefully and can't detect any smoothing or wear around the teeth and the chain seems to seat perfectly around the cog with no visible gaps. and again, the derailleur pulleys align perfectly with the cog. when determining the length of the new chain, i wrapped the chain around the largest cog and chainring combo, bypassing the derailleur, then added two links.
i'm wondering if the skipping can be caused be inadequate derailleur tension and/or the distance between the cog and the first derailleur pulley? i'm no expert on derailleurs and i've never played with either of these adjustments. i don't want to mess with these until someone chimes in.
any other thoughts?
thanks in advance!
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2nd for the bad cog. i had the same exact problem you mentioned, got a new chain- etc. and it was a single worn cog that was at issue. you need a new cassette.
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Take a look at the pictures here on worn gears. It's not a question of what the teetch look like but their shape.
https://sheldonbrown.com/chains.html
https://sheldonbrown.com/chains.html
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On small cogs, the wear and pitch mis-match with a new chain can be significant even if the teeth look normal. The chain is more perceptive than you are. It knows for sure what it doesn't like.
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now for part deux: what freewheel should i upgrade to? or should i stick with a NOS suntour off of ebay? i'd like to keep the quality on par with (or better) than what was stock. i think the index shifter is good for 5- or 6-speed freewheels only. again, i am pretty inexperienced with derailleurs/freewheels and am learning my way through bike repair with this bike.
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I use a steel ruler and a Park CC2. I get consistent results between the two. With the CC2 it is important to not use too much pressure, just take out the slack. If you bend the pins you can throw away the tool.
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