Rear derailer rebuild-Loccktite?
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Shimano, Campy and, I assume, SRAM don't build the extra float into their derailleur pulleys just for the fun of it.
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If you really want to use Loctite, use the purple stuff that is made for 1/4"and smaller screws. Just enough hold without being hard to remove. The Loctite product number is 222.
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FWIW, the Park website says: "... Install and tighten pulley bolts to about 30 inch-pounds. Use of a mild thread locker is recommended."
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Maybe I've been lucky but I've never had a pulley bolt come loose after r&r of the pulleys. I'm sure using either Purple (Grade 222) or Blue (Grade 242) Loctite is a useful safety feature and I may do it in the future.
BTW, there are a lot of grades of Loctite that have the same color but are not the same strength. For example there are several grades of "Red" and several grades of "Green". Some are relatively weak and the fasteners can be removed with hand tools and others are so strong they require heat for removal. It's best to specify the grade number rather than the color.
BTW, there are a lot of grades of Loctite that have the same color but are not the same strength. For example there are several grades of "Red" and several grades of "Green". Some are relatively weak and the fasteners can be removed with hand tools and others are so strong they require heat for removal. It's best to specify the grade number rather than the color.
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I've seen a pulley bolt come loose on a friend's bike. I also believe Campy assembles their RDs with blue thread locking compound. I use blue locktite.
As far as float, indexing and sealed bearings: I use Tacx sealed bearing pulleys on all my bikes (all Campy 9 and 10 speed). They have no float, but the upper pulley teeth are thinner than the lower ones. I'm guessing this mimics the float with the chain able to rock back and forth on the pulley itself.
As far as float, indexing and sealed bearings: I use Tacx sealed bearing pulleys on all my bikes (all Campy 9 and 10 speed). They have no float, but the upper pulley teeth are thinner than the lower ones. I'm guessing this mimics the float with the chain able to rock back and forth on the pulley itself.
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Thanks all for fantastic input. I'm going with the Purple (Grade 222) Loctite. When I break down it tends to be way out there, so I want some security. Plus Purple is a groovy, far out Hendrix kinda color. Thanks all for a very healthy exchange.
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Are they accurate enough to dispense with the float or accurate because of the float. Tolerances in cassette cog spacing, brifter cable pull and cable length may be small but they are not zero and the float allows fast accurate shifting despite not havinh everything aligned perfectly.
Shimano, Campy and, I assume, SRAM don't build the extra float into their derailleur pulleys just for the fun of it.
Shimano, Campy and, I assume, SRAM don't build the extra float into their derailleur pulleys just for the fun of it.
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I do all of the above, use the OEM pulleys, have no problems and also ride the hell out of the bikes. MMDV (My Mileage Doesn't Vary. )
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Maybe I've been lucky but I've never had a pulley bolt come loose after r&r of the pulleys. I'm sure using either Purple (Grade 222) or Blue (Grade 242) Loctite is a useful safety feature and I may do it in the future.
BTW, there are a lot of grades of Loctite that have the same color but are not the same strength. For example there are several grades of "Red" and several grades of "Green". Some are relatively weak and the fasteners can be removed with hand tools and others are so strong they require heat for removal. It's best to specify the grade number rather than the color.
BTW, there are a lot of grades of Loctite that have the same color but are not the same strength. For example there are several grades of "Red" and several grades of "Green". Some are relatively weak and the fasteners can be removed with hand tools and others are so strong they require heat for removal. It's best to specify the grade number rather than the color.
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Well, I don't typically grease my threads; 30W motor oil if anything. But I don't see LocTite® doing any harm - just one extra step. So if it feels good, do it.
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