I need the tool for this style BB (sorry, not a great pic). If I'm looking at it + tool suppliers correctly, the correct tool is like $65...thought I'd ask here if I'm right about that and, if so, is there another option that won't risk marring the face of the BB.

This is the best tool you can buy for that BB.


https://www.bikebling.com/Campagnolo-...py-bb-tool.htm

It allows you to secure the tool to the cup so that it doesn't slip, e.g marring it. Not quite sure why you're concerned about that given the state of the rest of the frame.

cheap:
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product...8_10000_201540
expensive:
https://www.cyclus-tools.eu/index.php...ergehaeuse&L=3
https://www.vartools.com/fr/aff_catal...affiche_promo=

hey Im going to sell my campag athena parts. Ive got an unfortunately named BB tool for the cartridge BB. Its made by ***. I got the tool in an assorted box of stuff from ebay

Not much use to you tho, as Im in Scotland.

$14.95
https://cgi.ebay.com/PARK-BBT-4-BICYC...item5ad5a2dc43

Tough crowd, but thanks for all the good info. The frame is actually in really great condition, but rather nasty dirty having just come off a surprisingly wet ride when captured in the photograph. If used correctly are any of those tool choices more or less prone to fail?

Well, the Park variant is prone to slipping off if it's not being held onto the bottom bracket squarely, which I usually address by means of a Stein BB-tool holder-on'er. Its short length also requires more physical strength, or a cheater bar, or the use of a mallet. If you get the Park, it's worth cobbling together some sort of holder-on'er of your own so it won't slip. Just off the top of my head, I'd put your crank bolt through a freewheel tool, then drop the freewheel tool into a leftover fixed cup from a cup-&-cone bottom bracket, and use that stack to hold the Park tool firmly against the BB and frame. Yeah, it might take paint off the face of the BB shell... but on a properly-faced frame, that'd be bare metal anyway.

Do not buy that. It is shyte.

Depending what your budget is, the campagnolo tools are worth the cost! We have the original campagnolo tool set, thousands of pounds, 15+ years old and still going strong, however cyclus are now doing a really good range of tools at a decent price. Possibly look in to that? Soil sampler has posted the best tool for the cost as it has a handle for you to apply a decent amount of pressure with it being an older style bracket which are prone to slipping unless direct pressure is held. The tool operator has mentioned will work more than adequately however as mention, if pressure is put wrongly on the tool it could be prone to slipping and leading to damage of the frame.

I'm sure they are. As a fairly accomplished amateur mechanic (ie, a very serious hobby) for 20ish years, I've grown to appreciate having the right tool + quality. My recipe for building my tool box was to always buy the right tool for the job the first time I do it. That way, I rarely "saved" money doing my own repairs the first time, but over the years I found that I had done almost everything and had about 90% of the right tools. I've been applying the same recipe to bicycles lately, though I have once Campy BB amidst a sea of Shimanos...so, of course the only logical choice will be to get the right tool & outfit more of my bikes with Campy! lol...thanks, folks

Be aware that Campy BBs use a different taper than Shimano. Some further info: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/bbtaper.html

yes, I am aware...well, this one is definitely Italian threaded.

oh it censored my post. My BB tool is made by the bearing manufacterer. F A G.

And it fits my english threaded Campag BB. Is the Italian BBs a larger diameter? And so uses a bigger tool?

I hope you know that removing the fixed cup should be avoided whenever possible.

do you still consider the drive side a fixed cup on a cartridge BB? The deal with what I'm working on is it's an '86 Bertoni frame (cool, lugged Columbus SLX) that was built up with a 2005(ish) Campy group. I bought the bike from the guy who built it, so (unlike most of my bikes) the parts being on the bike does not imply I know all about them + have the tools to install/uninstall. Anyway, after few K miles, on a ride the other day the drive side cup began to back out (it is right-threaded, Italian, btw). It was time to clean, tune, check anyway, so I figured instead of simply tightening it back (which I could probably do with some sort of tool hack in my workshop), I should A.) get the right tool since I will need it sooner or later anyway & B.) go ahead & pull it and make sure there's no thread damage or nothing else wrong that could have caused it to loosen.

btw, that's funny about F.A.G. ...I've installed many of those as wheel bearings, throwout bearings, etc. in cars....never sounds real sharp asking for them by name, i guess

Nah, it's probably attached so that you can't remove the cartridge without removing the "fixed" cup. And if you are interested in looking at an '87 Bertoni catalogue I have one on my WoolJersey pages. Click the sig pic.

Oh, I didn't know it's a cartridge bearing.

A friend of mine worked for F-A-G. It's a German company. I think in Germany, they just pronounce it as spelled, as it isn't a forbidden word there.

Im in Scotland and F A G is a common word for a ciggarette. But since theres lots of US films and TV shows on TV here. American terms are common.
Ive nothing against people that take that lifestyle choice. I wouldnt use a derogatory term about them. They dont need hassle from me. I guess Im PC then.

Threading =/= taper. Even an English threaded Campy BB will still have a different taper size.

yeah, I realized I was oversimplifying the BB differences after I hit reply. I'm still enjoying being on the climbing end of the learning curve, but I'm learning.

Thanks for the catalog link. I think I have that saved somewhere...I think......anyway, yep, the Professionale on page 3 is my bike (in it's original configuration, that is).

I'll second that Cyclus Tools - made in Germany - are of excellent quality and lower cost than the other biggies. My next major purchase for my shop will be a Cyclus Facer - both one for the BB and the headtube. I think the main reason they are at a lower cost is that most Americans have never heard of them. In Europa they are like Park is here in the Untied Snakes.