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Use no grease INSIDE the freewheel...ever. It always does the sticky-pawls thing.
Use oil only for the inside, and use grease for the the hub-threads in the back. As for grease: I always use the Phil Wood. Worth the money, and makes a mighty fine skin moisturizer to boot. |
I grease the freewheel bearing balls sometimes, but OTOH it is pretty easy to just put a drop of oil on there every now and then.
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Originally Posted by Chop61
(Post 10506954)
I use Phil Wood waterproof grease in a pricey little tube so it doesn't get contaminated, like a big ol' tub. I like the smell too.
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I used to use Lubrimatic Marine Grease but kind of ended up disliking it. It worked well enough, but the oil tends to separate out from the soap after a while. I used to keep it in a grease gun, and every time I used it, the next day there'd be a little green pool of oil under the nozzle--oil that should be lubricating your bearings, not messing up your toolbox. I have not seen that happen with other greases I've tried like Finish Line or Park.
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Thanks on the terminology
Prawls, thank you I didn't know that.
I also didn't know about grease and reinspection. I thought grease it once its good for a lifetime. So thats good to know too. |
Whoops, pawls, no 'r'.
And also thanks on the light oil for the freewheel, I was going to use grease. |
On my "good" bikes I use Phil. The tube lasts a couple of years of rebuilds. Although it used to be $4-$5 ea and its now up to $8
On "cheap" bikes or for the neighborhood magnas I use some cheap sticky blue stuff I have around. It's a gun tube and I just keep cutting it down when I can't reach the grease anymore. |
Anti-seize is important, in my opinion, only when you have stainless screws threading into stainless nuts, or aluminum into aluminum. Otherwise, you're just applying the lube to the threads to make it thread smoothly and minimize the chance of water/salt contamination and corrosion.
Somewhere on the net there is an article by the people that make those bicycle frame couplers about galling and seizing and the proper grease to use to avoid it. I don't know enough about how those couplers are constructed and work to say for sure, but I infer that there must be some stainless part to part contact that can be troublesome. That's not a unique problem. |
Originally Posted by desconhecido
(Post 10543512)
Somewhere on the net there is an article by the people that make those bicycle frame couplers about galling and seizing and the proper grease to use to avoid it. I don't know enough about how those couplers are constructed and work to say for sure, but I infer that there must be some stainless part to part contact that can be troublesome. That's not a unique problem.
http://www.sandsmachine.com/ac_greas.htm |
Here's the article desconhecido referred to:
http://www.sandsmachine.com/ac_greas.htm This stuff from Finish Line says it's approved for the couplers, but apparently S&S hasn't updated their page yet: http://www.finishlineusa.com/product...oro_grease.htm edit: too late! |
I still have one unopened tube of DuPont TeflonŽ Bearing Grease. I bought it super cheap on close-out from either Nashbar or Performance circa 1996, I think maybe $4/syringe.
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I actually first heard about the Finish Line stuff from a discussion over at CandlePower Forums about the best lube for threads and o-rings on high-end LED flashlights. I think I paid about $10 for a syringe from Amazon.
EDIT: By the way I should clarify that I'm in no way advocating using this stuff for bearings or even common fastener threads. I don't think it's waterproof, and way too expensive anyway. |
There is no such thing as bike specific grease, it's all repackaged auto or machine grease. The advantages of synthetic is that it doesn't get way thick in really cold temps. I've been using Citgo Marine grease (the blue stuff) for years now. Get it at Autozone for about $3.50 per grease gun tube. Never had a problem with it, and I've never seen the oil separate out of it. If you've got money to burn, go ahead and buy the bike boutique grease -- while you're at it, buys some special boutique air for your tires as well.
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Originally Posted by Fissile
(Post 10544661)
If you've got money to burn, go ahead and buy the bike boutique grease -- while you're at it, buys some special boutique air for your tires as well.
I'm about to do the spring checklist on my bike before I start riding this year so thanks for the grease info everyone. I've never done them so the hubs are on the list. |
Originally Posted by Fissile
(Post 10544661)
There is no such thing as bike specific grease, it's all repackaged auto or machine grease.
Bike grease is typically one viscosity grade lower than automotive, btw. |
Originally Posted by Metaluna
(Post 10544641)
I actually first heard about the Finish Line stuff from a discussion over at CandlePower Forums about the best lube for threads and o-rings on high-end LED flashlights. I think I paid about $10 for a syringe from Amazon.
EDIT: By the way I should clarify that I'm in no way advocating using this stuff for bearings or even common fastener threads. I don't think it's waterproof, and way too expensive anyway. |
Originally Posted by Fissile
(Post 10544661)
There is no such thing as bike specific grease, it's all repackaged auto or machine grease.
The advantages of synthetic is that it doesn't get way thick in really cold temps. I've been using Citgo Marine grease (the blue stuff) for years now. Get it at Autozone for about $3.50 per grease gun tube. Never had a problem with it, and I've never seen the oil separate out of it. If you've got money to burn, go ahead and buy the bike boutique grease -- while you're at it, buys some special boutique air for your tires as well. |
Originally Posted by Fissile
(Post 10544661)
The advantages of synthetic is that it doesn't get way thick in really cold temps.
If your cup and cone bearings undergo bearing drop, perhaps due to a momentary overload, the balls have to slide sideways as well as roll. That's one instance where a higher film strength would seem to pay dividends. With perfectly adjusted bearings, run at moderate loads, any grease should be fine. When things go out of adjustment, perhaps because they're new, or maybe the axles flex due to an overload, then synthetic pays off. |
For my pedals, screws, metal to metal contact points I just use a tub of really cheap Axle Bearing Grease that I have laying around. Works really good for open bearings too. Is it thick enough just to set the bearings in, tighten the cones back down and go.
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Originally Posted by Metaluna
(Post 10548108)
To be fair, the repackagers for the most part have at least done the legwork of figuring out for you which of the thousands of different formulations and grades available on the market are best for bike applications. So, while you can probably do as well or better for less money than the tube of stuff from the LBS, an unsophisticated user can certainly do a *lot worse* by choosing an inappropriate lubricant. And some of them do claim that their stuff is a custom formulation (doesn't mean they have to own a grease factory...I'm sure there are plenty of companies that will work with you for the right price).
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