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Old 03-23-10 | 02:28 PM
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Weird canti question

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So, I've never run across these kinds of cantis and was wondering if anyone had any pointers on adjustments or why they even exists? Thanks!
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Old 03-23-10 | 03:21 PM
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Cannondale called it "Force 40", Suntour called it a Power Hanger. Supposedly they increase mechanical advantage, but in practice you can see the yoke angle winds up narrower than you would use with a regular straddle cable, so it's a wash. There's also some brand of trail-a-bike tow bar that came with this as a cable routing kludge, because the trailer hitch was where the canti cable would otherwise be.

I've played with them and didn't like the effect especially when used with low-profile cantilevers. Very difficult to get centered -- often you wind up having to put spring ends in different holes on each side -- and then the pads wear unequally. (A setup like that can be useful to address squeal/shudder in front... but no reason to use it in the rear or this particular implementation)

My biggest tip on adjusting those is don't bother, replace the bell crank with a regular straddle cable and cable hanger off the seat bolt. (ETA: oh wait a seat bolt hanger won't work because that frame has some kind of rear suspension. In that case, I recommend getting a fork crown cable hanger and bolting it to the rear brake bridge. Or change your levers and go to V brakes.)

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Old 03-23-10 | 03:25 PM
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Those are old-school smooth-post cantilevers that were common before they started putting V-brake orbital adjustment brake pads on them. I believe Tektro still makes them, and until only a few years ago Surly was shipping them standard on their Cross-Check (one of the first things I ditched on that bike...).
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Old 03-23-10 | 04:03 PM
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Best advice I can give: Replace them with V-Brakes and the proper brake lever (as cantis and v-brakes typically use different amounts of pull)
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Old 03-23-10 | 07:49 PM
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wow, thanks for all the info zzyzx_xyzzy. I'd never come across something so kludgey before.
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