Contact Cement Good Enough?
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I'll do the experiment. Phone would y'all like me to do it? I have a bucket of tubes to patch now. I've been using Elmer's rubber cement for a few years now. In fact, my oldest bottle congealed, and I had to toss it. But it's so cheap, I feel I'm ahead of the game.
I try to keep an unopened tube of glue in my on-the-bike patch kit. That way, I'll know it's likely to be there and not dried out.
I try to keep an unopened tube of glue in my on-the-bike patch kit. That way, I'll know it's likely to be there and not dried out.
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The above is a generic rendition.
I would suggest accepting the advice of a bike scientist to confirm actual specific requirements for your particular application.
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Contact cement works but does eventually get hard dries and you can peel the patch off.
I buy these cans one will last years! and I patch a lot of tires for the kids.
Vulcanizing fluid melts the patch and tube together making the bond.
I buy vulcanizing fluid here at Gimplers
For the road you can find small tubes around but I patch at home and swap tubes on the road so the can works for me.
I keep one small tube and some patches with me on road but try not to use those tubes of vulcanizing fluid.
I buy these cans one will last years! and I patch a lot of tires for the kids.
Vulcanizing fluid melts the patch and tube together making the bond.
I buy vulcanizing fluid here at Gimplers
For the road you can find small tubes around but I patch at home and swap tubes on the road so the can works for me.
I keep one small tube and some patches with me on road but try not to use those tubes of vulcanizing fluid.
#31
In my case its not a guess when you think its really stuck on you can peel it off if you try after a few months the contact cement gets to the point the patch comes off quite easily.
A patch applied with vulcanizing fluid will not come off like that.
A patch applied with vulcanizing fluid will not come off like that.
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If anybody is interested here is my story.
i was having the same problem with the tire cement as everyone else. Dried out in the unopened tube when I needed it.
what I did.
purchased a bottle of rubber cement at my local Office supply store .
took a bicycle tube and punched a small hole in it.
sanded the spot , applied a thin layer of some of the rubber cement, let it dry and then applied a patch.
Immediately filled the tube with air to see if the patch would stay on. It did and did not curl at all
put the tube with air in the sun for a couple of hours to see if the patch would come off from the heat. It didn't. Not even close.
Tried taking the patch off with my fingers. It could be done but it would not be easy.
conclusion.
the rubber cement is working just as well as the glue that comes with patch kits. It is acting just the same with an applied patch.
now I have to find a small air tight container to hold some of the rubber cement in my bike bag.
any ideas on that?
george
i was having the same problem with the tire cement as everyone else. Dried out in the unopened tube when I needed it.
what I did.
purchased a bottle of rubber cement at my local Office supply store .
took a bicycle tube and punched a small hole in it.
sanded the spot , applied a thin layer of some of the rubber cement, let it dry and then applied a patch.
Immediately filled the tube with air to see if the patch would stay on. It did and did not curl at all
put the tube with air in the sun for a couple of hours to see if the patch would come off from the heat. It didn't. Not even close.
Tried taking the patch off with my fingers. It could be done but it would not be easy.
conclusion.
the rubber cement is working just as well as the glue that comes with patch kits. It is acting just the same with an applied patch.
now I have to find a small air tight container to hold some of the rubber cement in my bike bag.
any ideas on that?
george
The variable aspect missing in your testing is that not all tubes or patches are the same. In much experience I have found a definite difference btwn 20'' tubes, with some being made of a dull softer rubber than others which seem to be somewhat shiny and feel kind of plasticized. In addition, some patches do not stretch as well as others. I have found these [no affiliation with me] to be the best inexpensive ones, which I cut in half).
And while I am here, as for using contact cement, the name is also used for rubber cement, while what I had in mind is Dap 00272 Weldwood contact cement, and while there is a (poor) instructable on using contact cement for patches, yet a comment testified to what I suspected, that the patch will not hold under pressure, which is because both the cement and the patch must be able to stretch. Perhaps it might work if patching an inflated tube and holding it firmly till set, but that is desperation.
Of course, there are those who will tell us you can use deodorant and clear mailing tape for patching (highly dubious!), or even bubble gum and saran wrap (no way) and God knows what else.
As for small containers, you can thoroughly clean out and dry small toothpaste tubes, or even buy them for about a dollar.
If you can buy (24=) 48 good patches and rubber patch cement and empty tubes for about 10.00 total (thank God) then there is no much need for other measures, but seeing as I have a good amount of contact cement I though I would research the viability of it
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Amazon: Rema patches: https://www.amazon.com/Rema-F0-P-16m...a+patches+bulk
and: https://www.amazon.com/Rema-F0-P-16m...a+patches+bulk
Enough for 6-10 years, never go bad. For glue I have been using tire patch glue from Walmart, about $6 for 8 0z, lasts 4-6 yrs. Though not specifically "cold vulcanizing" I have been unable to pull patches off that have been glued down with this stuff. Victor 00599V
I used to use Weldwood type contact cement back in the '70s to put tubulars on rims, they held pretty well with extremely rare roll-offs but with a flat were not
hard to get the tire off the rim and putting a spare on, there was enough residual tack to get you home. Came in quart cans.
The little tubes in patch kits are one use, ie once the seal is punctured, they go bad in a few months. They also seem to go bad over several years even sealed.
and: https://www.amazon.com/Rema-F0-P-16m...a+patches+bulk
Enough for 6-10 years, never go bad. For glue I have been using tire patch glue from Walmart, about $6 for 8 0z, lasts 4-6 yrs. Though not specifically "cold vulcanizing" I have been unable to pull patches off that have been glued down with this stuff. Victor 00599V
I used to use Weldwood type contact cement back in the '70s to put tubulars on rims, they held pretty well with extremely rare roll-offs but with a flat were not
hard to get the tire off the rim and putting a spare on, there was enough residual tack to get you home. Came in quart cans.
The little tubes in patch kits are one use, ie once the seal is punctured, they go bad in a few months. They also seem to go bad over several years even sealed.
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There is that temporary self adhesive patch to get you home, thats a lower standard to meet, in that case yea rubber / contact cement can be subsituted..
then put a New tube in when you are back home..
then put a New tube in when you are back home..






