My Park 4th hand cable tool works quite well, with no slippage.

Sure. BikeToolsEtc handles them and sells at the consumer level through their web site:

Bike Tools Etc. - 1000's of bicycle tools and parts for the home mechanic!

I'll trade ya!

Funny but I grew up in the Mojave desert and none of the old old vehicles I owned rusted. Not one flake of rust ever appeared. Sounds like the cars you owned were driven on the east coast where snow-covered roads are dusted with salt during those long and cold winters.

I also use my Park Tool Fourth Hand for tightening up zip ties and it works great for that application.

That's awful! Lately I've seen a bunch of products "Designed in USA." Other companies are trying to cash in on the made in USA bandwagon any way they can

Hi! I'm glad you guys don't think I'm hijacking your discussion, I didn't think I was but I wanted to tread carefully. I read the whole original thread about outsourcing and just had to comment.

Thanks for the advice, I've gotten mixed reviews on the smaller Allens, it seems some people need them and some don't. I've posted the set for the cyclist community to review on ****** and it's spawned quite the conversation, and many people are in agreement with you about the T-25, so I will add that today.

I see what you're saying about the chain breaker and tire levers. As I said we're a tiny shop, so as of now I juggling coming out with new sets & parts, running a machine, helping out in the shop etc. Partnering with another USA company isn't out of the question in the future though, the clincher is that they'd have to be USA made from USA materials. Someone recommended Black Star Bags - The best waterproof messenger bags and backpacks out of Portland.

You're dead on about the computer/IT guys. Traveling service/tech guys are one of our best markets, whether they fix medical/dental/lab equipment, computer systems, industrial equipment, commercial appliances etc. They like our tools because they're very compact and durable. They usually go for our Master Set 5575 Those guys ask for Phillips #0, #00 and JIS bits, all of which I'm working on. Are you in IT?

Your tools look good, and I might have a set.. I have a yellow box!
But, what I like about bike multi tools are... they don't come apart.. no small bits to loose.
I am still waiting for the ultimate bike multitool: one that includes a knife blade and a corkscrew.

[MENTION=424536]ChapmanMFG[/MENTION], one of your words got starred out. Was it r-e-d-d-i-t? I don't know why bikeforums stars that out, but there you go.

Yes, I'm in IT. Unfortunately, I don't get a chance to do much hardware repair. Sometimes I insert hard drives or RAM into computers. I mount them into 19" racks. That's about it. I'm a software technician of sorts. My title is system administrator. I run the servers that no one even knows exist. I work at Manhattan College in New York City.

I'm not in IT myself, I write software, so the IT guys work hard to make sure I can do my job without interruption. But just tinkering on stuff at home, I've had my share of frustration with cheap mini screwdriver kits. If I was a pro I'd never put up with that, I'd definitely buy The Right Tools.

Chain breaker is a very complex tool with funny shapes and moving parts, it would be quite a design job to come up with one of a sufficient quality to match your other tools. Levers are like the one exception that I think most bikers would expect to carry separately from a multitool, so I don't know that you need to focus on that.

But a spoke wrench, that's maybe something you could think about tackling. Take a look at the distinction between the 3-sided (Park SW-0/1/2, SW-7.2) and 4-sided (Park SW-20/22/40/42) tools and maybe you'll get some ideas. Maybe something based on the spinner, but slotted, with a 4-sided tool in the center? Two sizes (to match SW-40/42)? One spinner has both sizes if you flip it (in line with flipping the midget ratchet?)

Let the Re-design begin.....!

Yes it was the forum you mentioned. So far I haven't heard about anyone using our tools to fix software yet

Right now I only have the capacity to make our current tools and new bits and frankly have my hands full with that. If I was going to offer other tools it would be partnership with another company. Funny you mention a spoke wrench, a lady came to the shop today and made the same connection between our spinner an a spoke wrench. Right now we're working on a super double top secret project that has a component similar to a spoke wrench, so if I was going to manufacture something as of now that's our best bet.