LeicaLad 

I know that one can get the Kool Stop pads to fit the old style holders of C&V Campy sidepulls, BUT, I think I'd rather have the larger surface area of the newer pads.

Can any of the Kool Stop models that have a rear nut be used on my C&V Campy calipers?

I know it won't pass the KOF test, but I need the stopping power more than I need the approval of others.

Will the BMX/Mountain pads work? The twin or multi-component versions actually look the best.

Thanks.

canopus 

The Scott Mathauser blocks pads work fine on Campy Side pulls, use them myself and I weigh 205 and if I applied enough pressure could lift the rear probably. More surface area doesn't necessarily equate to more stopping power on the old side pulls. A properly adjusted pivot nut, lubed washers, toed-in pads make a bigger difference than big pads.

I don't know if the MTB pads would fit but the Campy 2000's would.

fietsbob

I have some been using them for years. https://www.koolstop.com/brakes/index.php

friction material slides in keeping the holder.

LeicaLad 

Thank you, gentlemen.

FBinNY 

How old is old? Older, Pre 1999 Campy brakes had slots for 6mm shoe hardware (most common still today) whereas they later went to 8mm. So it's simply a matter of measuring your slot, then buying shoes to match. There's also the question of shoe height, or arm to rim distance, which is smaller on more modern brakes, some of which won't accommodate older shoes with wider rims.

BTW- don't go to larger shoes in the hopes of greater stopping power. Shoe size doesn't affect stopping power. The only benefit of longer shoes is reduced torque on the brake arms.

LeicaLad 

My old is reasonably old. A 1971 Gitane Super Corsa with the original brakes.

HillRider

If the slot width in the brake arms is 6 mm you could fit Kool Stop's "Dura type" holders and pads as they fit Shimano brakes that also have 6 mm slots.

FBinNY 

Nice to see people who are still riding quality older stuff. No problem, if you replace the entire shoe, any with a 6mm bolt, though some of the newer stuff will not be tall enough, and cause the brakes to close too far and strike the rim at an angle. Not a big thing, but doesn't look right. If you just replace the unserts, you want the KoolStop "Nuovo Record inserts, sold 4/bag in Salmon or Black.

BTW- if you want the set of Black inserts, I have a few sets, and would sell them at $16.00/set4 including postage. PM me if interested.

fietsbob

you can swap in Kool Stop's Continental shoes , a molded in one piece part, Im using them on my Brompton.. with much smaller wheels..

and live in a town that IS a steep hill.

or they make direct replacements for <c> part # 2010, if you have the 2014 holders , they are open to the back.

If they are closed front and rear they are not original parts , Japan copied Campag but anticipating people putting brake shoes in backwards closed both ends.

also if tire guide is separate from the from the shoe holder one steel the other aluminum its aftermarket.
though you can stick the tire guide over the bolt on the KS Continental blocks .. but I expect you are not needing mid race rapid wheel changes,
so the tire guides lose their advantage.

LeicaLad 

More thanks. I'm thinking of the full-piece. I have both original Campy block holders and after-market ones. All allow swapping of the blocks, but I don't have the vise that is pretty much required(!) to do the job. Just buying the complete units pretty much do the job. I'm looking at either the Salmon or the twin black/salmon in one. I need the stopping power!

Thanks guys!

Bianchigirll 

if you care for my two cents, as other have said a larger pad does not really gaurentee better braking. IMHO for these brake getting a pad/holder combination that matches the size of the original pad/holder from the inside of the arm to the braking surface is paramount. putting too thin of pad may cause the brake to engage beyond its optimum performance area.

if you really want newer style pads try these. it appears that you can adjust them with the washers to match the Campy thickness. I used a pair on a set of Modolos and they are great. the only drawback is no wheel guide



https://www.ebikestop.com/koolstop_cr...pad-BR2170.php

OH that is a beautiful Gitane

LeicaLad 

BG,

Thanks! on all accounts. I do love my old steel.

Actually these pads are exactly the ones that attract me most. Dual compound, holders, etc. I also have a set of Modolo calipers in need of new shoes, so this is also good. (And a set of Zeus brakes, too!) The wheel guide is of no importance to me. I'm not throwing wheels in that fast. I always thought they were nice for aesthetics, but of little utility.

I can always put the original Campy pads on if it's a show-off day. But I need the stopping power!

Thanks, again.

Bianchigirll 

your welcome.