rear derailleur
#1
Thread Starter
Desert Rat
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 366
Likes: 1
From: SoCal Desert Cities
Bikes: GT Timberline (1990?), Trek 1100 (199?), Giant OCR3 (2007)
rear derailleur
What's the best way to tell if your rear derailleur is worn out?
It seems okay when I wiggle the cogs on it. This is an old bike but doesn't have much more movement than the new bike I have does. The shifting isn't that good. The chain is still in good shape and the cassett isn't very old. The adjustment on the rear derailleur is hard to dial in. It seems that it either doesn't shift up or it doesn't shift down properly. What I mean is that if I adjust it so it shifts up good then it doesn't shift down good and visa versa.
It will hesistate one way or the other.
Should I just take it to the lbs and have them check it out?
It seems okay when I wiggle the cogs on it. This is an old bike but doesn't have much more movement than the new bike I have does. The shifting isn't that good. The chain is still in good shape and the cassett isn't very old. The adjustment on the rear derailleur is hard to dial in. It seems that it either doesn't shift up or it doesn't shift down properly. What I mean is that if I adjust it so it shifts up good then it doesn't shift down good and visa versa.
It will hesistate one way or the other.
Should I just take it to the lbs and have them check it out?
#2
Senior Member


Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 39,897
Likes: 3,865
From: New Rochelle, NY
Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter
besides pulleys that wear out and need to be replaced from time to time, RDs can hold up for years if not crashed. Over time, they do wear in 6 places - the 4 pivots of the pantograph, and the upper and lower bodies. Over time this makes them sloppier, and pivot wear reduces their cable response a bit.
My old workhorse RD developed play in the upper body on the mtg bolt, and since I'm of the school where nothing is dead until it's well and truly dead I jammed a few turns of dental floss in there and it's OK again. That was 2 years ago, and I'm sure I'm on borrowed time, but then I can jump straight from 9s to 12s or 13s or whatever they're up to by then.
My old workhorse RD developed play in the upper body on the mtg bolt, and since I'm of the school where nothing is dead until it's well and truly dead I jammed a few turns of dental floss in there and it's OK again. That was 2 years ago, and I'm sure I'm on borrowed time, but then I can jump straight from 9s to 12s or 13s or whatever they're up to by then.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FB
Chain-L site
An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.
Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.
“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN
WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
#3
Senior Member

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 619
Likes: 1
I've ridden bikes from the 70s with original derailers that still work. If it still shifts the way it should, then it isn't worn out.
I would definitely suspect the cables of causing shifting issues before I suspected the derailer. How old are the cables and housing on that old bike? Excessive friction in the cables will lead to very odd shifting problems.
I would definitely suspect the cables of causing shifting issues before I suspected the derailer. How old are the cables and housing on that old bike? Excessive friction in the cables will lead to very odd shifting problems.
#4
Thread Starter
Desert Rat
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 366
Likes: 1
From: SoCal Desert Cities
Bikes: GT Timberline (1990?), Trek 1100 (199?), Giant OCR3 (2007)
besides pulleys that wear out and need to be replaced from time to time, RDs can hold up for years if not crashed. Over time, they do wear in 6 places - the 4 pivots of the pantograph, and the upper and lower bodies. Over time this makes them sloppier, and pivot wear reduces their cable response a bit.
My old workhorse RD developed play in the upper body on the mtg bolt, and since I'm of the school where nothing is dead until it's well and truly dead I jammed a few turns of dental floss in there and it's OK again. That was 2 years ago, and I'm sure I'm on borrowed time, but then I can jump straight from 9s to 12s or 13s or whatever they're up to by then.
My old workhorse RD developed play in the upper body on the mtg bolt, and since I'm of the school where nothing is dead until it's well and truly dead I jammed a few turns of dental floss in there and it's OK again. That was 2 years ago, and I'm sure I'm on borrowed time, but then I can jump straight from 9s to 12s or 13s or whatever they're up to by then.
I've ridden bikes from the 70s with original derailers that still work. If it still shifts the way it should, then it isn't worn out.
I would definitely suspect the cables of causing shifting issues before I suspected the derailer. How old are the cables and housing on that old bike? Excessive friction in the cables will lead to very odd shifting problems.
I would definitely suspect the cables of causing shifting issues before I suspected the derailer. How old are the cables and housing on that old bike? Excessive friction in the cables will lead to very odd shifting problems.
I would like to know it is the RD since they aren't cheap and this bike is 20 some years old now. I don't want to spend a bunch of money on it if I can help it
Thanks for the replies.
#6
Thread Starter
Desert Rat
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 366
Likes: 1
From: SoCal Desert Cities
Bikes: GT Timberline (1990?), Trek 1100 (199?), Giant OCR3 (2007)
It's an old MTB... a GT but the shifters are fairly new, about 2 years old. I hope they aren't worn out already. They are twist shifters.
I did notice that the rear shifter cable has a kink in it by the head tube. I am going to replace all the shifter cables and see what happens.
I did notice that the rear shifter cable has a kink in it by the head tube. I am going to replace all the shifter cables and see what happens.
#7
Senior Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 4,571
Likes: 16
From: Oxnard, CA
Bikes: 2009 Fuji Roubaix RC; 2011 Fuji Cross 2.0; '92 Diamond Back Ascent EX
#8
Senior Member


Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 30,225
Likes: 649
From: St Peters, Missouri
Bikes: Catrike 559 I own some others but they don't get ridden very much.
Dropout alignment is a commonly overlooked issue that's definitely a biggie.
1. Stand your bike up vertically against something and shift into a gear combination that causes the derailleur cage to point straight down.
2. Look at your derailleur from the back of the bike. The derailleur arm should point straight down. If it looks like it's pointing toward the rear wheel - that's your problem.
3. I'll align up to 7-speeds by eyeball. 9-speeds are a lot more picky about perfect alignment and definitely require using a gauge.
1. Stand your bike up vertically against something and shift into a gear combination that causes the derailleur cage to point straight down.
2. Look at your derailleur from the back of the bike. The derailleur arm should point straight down. If it looks like it's pointing toward the rear wheel - that's your problem.
3. I'll align up to 7-speeds by eyeball. 9-speeds are a lot more picky about perfect alignment and definitely require using a gauge.
#9
Thread Starter
Desert Rat
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 366
Likes: 1
From: SoCal Desert Cities
Bikes: GT Timberline (1990?), Trek 1100 (199?), Giant OCR3 (2007)
I found another problem. The RD is twisted. The front of it is twisted in toward the wheel and the back is outward. I hope you can understand what I mean when I say this. I stuch an adjustable wrench on the rd and twisted it so it is straight now. It shifts great and makes hardly any noise now. I am still going to change the housing that is kinked. I found this when trying what Retro Grouch said to do. Once the bike is upside down it is very easy to notice this. I guess my 20+ year old RD is not worn out yet. How long do these things last? I have now idea how many miles this bike has on it, but the derailleurs are about the only parts that are still original that have moving parts.
Thanks everyone for the input.
Thanks everyone for the input.





