Bent derailleur? Hanger?
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Bent derailleur? Hanger?
Bought a bike used, it was shipped. I'm thinking the rear derailleur or hangar was bent during shipping, but this is my first geared bike in a long time, so I don't really know...
Tried setting low limit screw as tight as possible with cable just tight enough to get it to shift down. The low limit screw doesn't actually stop tightening. It just gets to a point where it spins and does nothing. Even with the screw as tight as possible the derailleur tries to throw the chain into the spokes, and the bottom pulley actually touches the spokes.
Is something bent? Is the derailleur trashed? LBS fixable only or can I do it? Pics follow:



This is the best way I could think to show the alignment. The shifter is in the lowest gear, the cable is just tight enough to get the chain to move across the cassette, and the low limit screw is as far in as possible. I can take pictures from different angles if it helps.
Thanks for looking.
Tried setting low limit screw as tight as possible with cable just tight enough to get it to shift down. The low limit screw doesn't actually stop tightening. It just gets to a point where it spins and does nothing. Even with the screw as tight as possible the derailleur tries to throw the chain into the spokes, and the bottom pulley actually touches the spokes.
Is something bent? Is the derailleur trashed? LBS fixable only or can I do it? Pics follow:



This is the best way I could think to show the alignment. The shifter is in the lowest gear, the cable is just tight enough to get the chain to move across the cassette, and the low limit screw is as far in as possible. I can take pictures from different angles if it helps.
Thanks for looking.
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The face of the hanger must be parallel to the rear wheel plane for the RD to work properly. While there might be some issues of camera angle, it seems fairly clear that the hanger is pushed in at the bottom.
Even if you could adjust the limits to accommodate the RD position, you'll never gt good shifting because the RD cage is at an angle to the cassette.
Squaring a hanger requires a special tool, so it's your call whether you invest $50.00 or so or let the local shop do it for you for $10-15.00.
If you're skilled, you can also do the job with a 10x1 bolt, and a tri-square and ruler. It's slower than with the tool, but workable.
Even if you could adjust the limits to accommodate the RD position, you'll never gt good shifting because the RD cage is at an angle to the cassette.
Squaring a hanger requires a special tool, so it's your call whether you invest $50.00 or so or let the local shop do it for you for $10-15.00.
If you're skilled, you can also do the job with a 10x1 bolt, and a tri-square and ruler. It's slower than with the tool, but workable.
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So check the LBS cost vs tool cost. I have now checked the alignment on all my bikes.
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He's nuts. We do this as part of a $59 basic tune, and $10-15 add-on to a rear derailleur adjustment. Shops like this are a boon to home mechanics.





